24p or 24pA?

Posted by Trey 
24p or 24pA?
May 10, 2005 08:07PM
I'm shooting on 100A's and I'm wondering if there is a quality difference with the advanced mode? I will be outputing to miniDV tape.

As I understand it in 24pA I'll need to capture at 24p and edit at 24p. While with 24p regular I dont have to do anything different.
Re: 24p or 24pA?
May 10, 2005 08:37PM
IF I understand your question...the answer is - If you are shooting in 24p you have 2 options to edit:

1. to use FCP in in its basic 29.97 mode - you do not use the advanced mode.
(but then why shoot in 24p? I am sure there are reasons)

2. to use FCP in 24p as you want to edit and then go out to film at 24 frames - then yes you must use the Advanced mode.


You have no need to remove a pulldown ( which the "A" does in effect) if you are not ever going to need to transition from 24 FPS output.

And I repeat my 'if'...

cheers.
Re: 24p or 24pA?
May 10, 2005 08:45PM
So there is no quality advantage to using 24pA?

As I understand it, 24pA is just to allow FCP to automatically convert back to 24p w/o needing to run through an outside program to take out the extra frames? Is this correct?
Re: 24p or 24pA?
May 10, 2005 08:47PM
Regarding the project, it will be deliverd on miniDV, and odds are never transfered to film.

The reason for shooting 24p is to get the feel/look of film.

Thanks.
Re: 24p or 24pA?
May 10, 2005 08:57PM
There is no quality gained/lost when shooting 24pA vs shooting 24p.

If your output will be to tape, shoot 24p...NOT 24pa. That option is ONLY if you are eventually going to a film print, or DVD ONLY. If you EVER plan on going to tape, 24p is your setting.
Mike Mills
Re: 24p or 24pA?
May 10, 2005 10:08PM
do DVDs look better when shot in 24pa as opposed to 24p ? I know compressor has an option for using 23.97 frames.

Would I be better off for video shooting 24pa rather than 24p then going out to mpeg2. What quality differences are there?

thanks
Re: 24p or 24pA?
May 10, 2005 10:22PM
This isn't a quality issue. There is no difference in quality between 24p and 24pa. It is a difference in workflow.

IF and only IF your FINAL product will be a film print or DVD, should you even CONSIDER 24pA. If you are going to tape at any point, shoot and edit 24p. 24p edits on a regular 29.97 timeline.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE in quality between 24p and 24pA...period. None. Nada. Zippo. It is a matter or workflow and that's it.
Re: 24p or 24pA?
May 10, 2005 10:44PM
It's a matter of pulldown sequencing. 24p = 2:3:2:3:2:3, 24pa = 2:2:3:3:2:2:3:3. No quality difference, but it's a little easier to see the pulldown artifacting with 24pa.
Re: 24p or 24pA?
May 10, 2005 11:07PM
So 24p it is, thanks for the advice.
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