2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help

Posted by ankawa 
2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 12:13AM
Hi guys,
I just finished my first video edited in FCP 6
but my client asked me for a diferent version of the event
so I looked at my clips and notice that now the 16.9 ratio now is full screen???
here are two shots of the same clip viewed from the canvas
I even restarted the computer thinking it was a memory issue
the event was shot with a canon xha1 16.9 SD
Thanks

This is the correct image


not it looks like full screen
Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 12:50AM
The second image is the correct one. The first image is a 16:9 picture 'letterboxed' into a 4:3 frame.

I'm guessing that the program auto corrected it when you dropped it into a new sequence.

Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 01:00AM
You have a tad little more headroom than you should. FYI.

I know...not helpful.


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Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 01:05AM
> I even restarted the computer thinking it was a memory issue

Aie. Tough love time: You need to study up on your formats and editing a bit.

Read this, it'll help you:

[www.lafcpug.org]

Neither image you posted is "correct" or "incorrect". It depends on what you need. But you can't make that decision unless you understand what exactly you're shooting and editing, how your media behaves.


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Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 10:31AM
i have read this book "Final Cut Pro 6 by Diana Weynand" and did all the exercises before I started to edit my own footage. I review the book and could find any explanation to my problem....
Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 10:55AM
derekmok Wrote:
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> > I even restarted the computer thinking it was a
> memory issue
>
> Aie. Tough love time: You need to study up on
> your formats and editing a bit.
>
> Read this, it'll help you:
>
> [www.lafcpug.org]
> CPUG:_Log_and_Capture_FAQs#How_do_I_capture_and_ed
> it_with_anamorphic_16:9_footage.3F
>
> Neither image you posted is "correct" or
> "incorrect". It depends on what you need. But
> you can't make that decision unless you understand
> what exactly you're shooting and editing, how your
> media behaves.

So I need to know is check under ANAMORPHIC to all the sequencese, right ?
I dont understand why this topic is not included in that book.
Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 10:57AM
There is no better Final Cut manual than the, well, Final Cut manual. If you want an electronic copy, you can find it under the "Help" menu.

Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 11:40AM
The Weynand book is good but in some ways restricted and such manuals can't address all real world needs. That's why we have the Wiki and sites like this.

BTW, Ankawa, decent project organization. You might put those sequences in a CUTS bin and add an Special Imports folder for oddball-format footage like AVI's.

- Loren
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Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 11:47AM
Loren Miller Wrote:
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> BTW, Ankawa, decent project organization. You
> might put those sequences in a CUTS bin and add an
> Special Imports folder for oddball-format footage
> like AVI's.
>
> - Loren

Thank you.

I think I found the answer to my problem here
[finalcutpro.digitalmedianet.com]

SO all I need is to check Mark ALL sequences under "ANAMORPHIC"
am i right ????
Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 11:53AM
You didn't read the link I gave you, did you?


www.derekmok.com
Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 12:18PM
derekmok Wrote:
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> You didn't read the link I gave you, did you?


yeap i read it [www.lafcpug.org]

i need to take a walk, come back and read it again........
It though It was as easy as just check the anamorphic column sad smiley
Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 12:27PM
> It though It was as easy as just check the anamorphic column

Nope, not quite. The "easy" way doesn't always give you everything. That's why the Weynand book doesn't completely do it; that's why you need a more "macro" understanding of how the media behaves, and that's why I wrote up that tutorial.

When you put your anamorphic 16:9 media into a non-anamorphic Sequence (timeline), FCP converted your anamorphic clips to letterboxed by applying a Distort - Aspect Ratio of -33.33. This is because, by setting the timeline to non-anamorphic, you are implying to FCP that you don't want your clips to be anamorphic anymore.

Even if you now change the Sequence to anamorphic, the clips will retain that Distort setting. You need to remove that by using Remove Attributes (OPTION-APPLE-V), or by going into the Motion tab of each clip and setting the Aspect Ratio value back to 0.

Take your clips, start a new project file, and do the steps I show in that tutorial. That would give you an idea of what happens to your clips in each situation.


www.derekmok.com
Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 12:53PM
awesome
IT works smiling smiley



i just need to go to each clip sad smiley and set it to 0

how good is this book
[www.amazon.com]
????????????????

THANK YOU!!!!!!!! SO MUCH!!!!!
Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 03:49PM
thanks


Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 01, 2009 07:46PM
[how good is this book ]

Michael's been around, part of the original FCP team as I recall.

- Loren
Today's FCP keytip:

Cycle Image to Image & Wireframe to Wireframe with W !

Final Cut Studio 2 KeyGuide? Power Pack.
Now available at KeyGuide Central.
www.neotrondesign.com
Re: 2 aspect ratios from same clip ??? help
July 02, 2009 01:20PM
To dispel conflict of interest, I have to point out that I have known Diana Weynand for a couple of decades and taught for her training company in the past.

The book you talked about,"Final Cut Pro 6", is the starting point for learning Final Cut. " Final Cut Pro 6 Beyond the Basics" is a good next step.

Another great resource is Lynda.com. There are a myriad of other great places to go as well. Some are on the sidebar here, some in the store, more linked from the ones you find.

I also like to read the forums frequently to see what problems others encounter in their work, and the solutions offered by their peers.

You have finished both your first video and training programs. Congratulations on both. Someday you may have learned everything. I have been trying for more then 30 years. I'll drop you a note when I reach the end of the road!

-Vance
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