true 24 fps media (not film or HD) to 23.98 project

I'm editing an animated project. The animators say their software can only render at 24 fps. My sound house, which uses protools, requires a 23.98 project. What's the cleanest way to reconcile these two parameters. I do not want to transcode if it involves any kind of image processing.

i've never heard of that limitation in ProTools.
i've delivered true 24fps to ProTools in the past.
i'd get a second opinion on that.

most important question is what format are you finishing to.

Cinema Tools can "Conform" quicktime files from one frame-rate to another,
but it changes the playback speed.

if 23.98 is your final format overeall (and not just for your sound house)
then you should conform the files before you edit, i guess.


for the record, i have no experience with 23.98 vs 24 fps as i work in PAL land, so am either true 24 (film) or 25 (tv)


nick

For the record:
Cinema Tools does NOT change the playback speed, it changes the FPS for 'intended' speed.
I know it sounds funny, but there is a reason for being anal here...

A quicktime is flagged with two speeds. The speed it was recorded (and most of the time that is the speed intended for playback, unless you shot slomo), and there is a playback speed.

Now changing the playback speed will make the QT play faster in QTplayer, but is ignored in FCP.

Cinematools can change the Recording speed (and indeed you need it for going to 23.976 (note NOT 23.98!!!) to 24 or vice versa)
QTchange can change the Playback speed, but that only is handy for very specific situations.
(I had quite a few users asking about this...)

Bouke
www.videotoolshed.com

I did a test, using the conform function in cinema tools to convert a clip from 24 to 23.976. The conversion worked in both QT and in FCP.

for the record, ProTools can do 24fps even in its LE incarnation. i know because i have it.

stefan

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You should make your sound designer aware that Cinema Tools doesn't pitch-shift the audio when it conforms, so the pitch will be off slightly.

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Jon Chappell Wrote:
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> You should make your sound designer aware that
> Cinema Tools doesn't pitch-shift the audio when it
> conforms, so the pitch will be off slightly.


Are you joking? The pitch (frequency) will be 0.1% low. There are almost no humans able to discriminate two successive pitches that similar, much less recognize the two absolutely.

Dennis Couzin
Berlin, Germany

Between 24fps to 23.976, the pitch isn't that far off. 25fps to 23.976 is a different matter.



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