Green render line after conforming sequence to clip

Posted by Nick Meyers 
Green render line after conforming sequence to clip
September 18, 2013 09:37AM
i've just cut a clip into a new timeline.
as i was doing it, i was asked if i wanted to match the sequence to the clip,
i said YES,
but now the clip has a green render line!

i'm cross-checking all the relevant properties i can think of in the browser columns

anyone know what might cause a green render bar, when everything seems to match???


my clips properties are ProRes4444 25p
the clips were created by batch exporting "subclips" from a 10bit source.

another clue:
when i change my sequence from "render in 10bit YUV" to "render in 8bit YUV", or "render in RGB"
the render line changes from green to the blue/grey of "full"


nick
Re: Green render line after conforming sequence to clip
September 18, 2013 11:12AM
more clues

initial capture was PR4444.
that was to hard for the CPU, resulting in too many dropped frames,
so recaptured as 10-bitRGB

i can't work with the Uncompressed, so am trying to transcode to 4444

i tried exporting some of the captured PR4444 shots as PR4444 to see what happened.

now, these 4444 captures sit in a timeline just fine,
but if i export them there are issues:
Batch Exported files get the green line in a timeline,
a MANUAL export reveals something odd: i don't get the "item settings" option in the export window,
i get the Apple Intermediate option as the default,
I've seen that when the clip you want to export is non-standard.

so why can't i export ProRes4444 25p from FCP??



nick
Re: Green render line after conforming sequence to clip
September 18, 2013 07:25PM
it was the alpha channel!
Re: Green render line after conforming sequence to clip
October 05, 2013 05:03PM
My first thought was, the extra load is coming from the alpha channel support in that codec. But the 10-bit YUV is another anvil on your CPU-- it increases the load exponentially-- I've seen my own 2009 8-core machine choke on 10-bit-- even single stream! I've seen an FCP outfit in online suite also choke 10-bit. So moving back to friendly old 8-bit seems the order of the day.

Can you get away with it imagewise? For keying? That's another question.

We may not have such problems with a new MacPro.

Best, as always,
Loren S. Miller
www.neotrondesign.com
Home of KeyGuide Central
Re: Green render line after conforming sequence to clip
October 15, 2013 06:34AM
well, once i turned the alpha to none/ignore within FCP, the render line went away.
the files would still import with the alpha.

i was doing a lot of re-preocessing, anyway, in fcp, and in motion,
so we always exported as 4444 but with the advanced setting of millions of colours, not millions+
which stripped the alpha.
exporting out of FCP, i had to check "recompress all frames" for this to take.

the story is that this was a re-construcution of an old film.
16mm telecined to HDCam SR,
then captured as 4444.
the colourist preferred 4444 to 422, and we had the drive space & speed to handle it no worries, so that is what we did.


nick
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