Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff

Posted by ixschell 
Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 01:24AM
Hi,

I downloaded a song on itoons 6.05 on my G5 (OSX 10.4.7) to cut into my documentary. Final Cut Pro doesn't like m4p -- it imports with no sound. So, I reserched online how to convert the file to aiff, then I tried it using itoons. It wouldn't work because any song downloaded on itoons cannot be converted. Outside of buying the CD, is there another option?

Thanks!
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 01:34AM
You do know that you have to retain the sync rights to this music before you even THINK of showing it to a mass audience, right? That just because you downloaded it from iTunes doesn't mean that you can use it in your movie, right?

There is a way to do this, but before we let you know, you must know that you need to get the rights to the song. I use music from iTunes as TEMP music...meaning that before it sees the light of day ALL of the music will be replaced.

What are your plans?


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Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 01:39AM
Yes, of course I know that I need to get the rights to use the song. But, first I need to see how well it works in my film. Any suggestions?
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 01:43AM
OK...just wanted to make sure.

Burn the song to a CD. Then reimport that into iTunes as an AIFF file, 48khz, 16 bit stereo. You can set this up in the PREFERENCES...importing.


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Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 01:43AM
burn it to a cd in itunes, then reimport that, then you can do the aiff thing.

ive never tried it but audacity might do it as well:
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Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 02:14AM
The suggestions seem so simple, even so I"m having trouble.

I couldn't burn it to CD in itoons because the option was grey -- perhaps because it's a protected song. So, I tried Toast, first as "data" but that didn't work. Then as "audio." But in audio, Toast CHANGED the song to another song. I did it three times! Any other suggestions? What am I doing wrong?
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 02:26AM
in itunes, create a new playlist. drop that song in the playlist, then burn that playlist to cd.
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 02:45AM
I tried that. It looked like it was going to work. The CD burned fine in the new playlist from itoons, but when I imported it into FCP there was no sound. There were no sound waves, just the way the m4p files import. What am I doing wrong? It the copy protection to blame? Or, am I just not getting it?
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 03:06AM
Did you import the song as an AIFF file? You need to choose this setting in the iTunes preferences.


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Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 08:00AM
I think you can also convert it to AIFF in MPEG Streamclip, if you have that.
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 08:07AM
> I think you can also convert it to AIFF in MPEG Streamclip, if you have that.

Pretty sure you can't -- just tested it. "Invalid MPEG start code". Can't get around the m4p protection.

> There were no sound waves, just the way the m4p files import. What am I doing wrong?

It may be possible that they took this feature out of iTunes. I remember catching some wind about Apple's uneasiness about the ability of its own iTunes CD-burning function to get around the copy protection. But check your import settings -- APPLE-Y, Advanced - Importing. Make sure you're not converting the CD track to a non-FCP-friendly format like AAC or MP3.


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Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 08:08AM
A really good work round is to import into imovie then export from there but you have to throw in a bit of footage but then export just the audio.

Derek
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 08:28AM
The CD has to be an Audio CD not a DATA or mp3 cd. It's a setting in iTunes.
Can you confirm that the CD can play in a CD player? Once that is confirmed you have got to a place where there is no remnant of any DRM protection. It's up to you to screw it up, no offense intended.
I guess Apple might be able to pull off some trickiness with remembering what purchased songs were burnt where, I doubt it though. You could try importing off the CD in another computer if available.

ak
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Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 08:41AM
> A really good work round is to import into imovie then export

Derek, I'm fairly certain that doesn't work anymore. Since iTunes 7 and QuickTime 7. iMovie no longer sees the sound in current, protected .mp4s. Used to be a good workaround, though.


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Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 10:50AM
Quote

> A really good work round is to import into imovie then export

Derek, I'm fairly certain that doesn't work anymore. Since iTunes 7 and QuickTime 7. iMovie no longer sees the sound in current, protected .mp4s. Used to be a good workaround, though.

Yep, apple closed this loophole a while back.
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 11:17AM
I spent an hour on the phone with Apple Care. We tried everything. I think the file is copy protected and there's no way around it. She suggested I e-mail itoons store and ask if I can download it again in the .aiff format, so I did. She said songs should download in the .aiff format.

Thank you everyone for all your suggestions!!!
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 12:01PM
Even if you download in AIFF format (haven't heard this was possible in iTunes), it might still have embedded copyright protection of some sort. I don't think iTunes would be willing to discard copyright protection just for you.

I think you're missing something -- burning an audio CD from iTunes should have worked. Are you doing the conversion correctly? Describe what you did, every step.


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Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 12:26PM
I doubt I could describe every step because I was on the phone with Apple tech support talking me through it for an hour. We tried countless ways to burn the CD and change the format. The song on the burned CD from itoons wouldn't play. It doesn't matter if it's an .aiff with copy protection as long as I can load it into FCP. FCP won't play an m2p file. I think that's my only option at this point.
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 01:30PM
what song is it? ill try to do it here.
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 05, 2007 09:29PM
What a sweetheart you are! It's Witchcraft by Chris Connor. I can e-mail it to you if you like.
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 06, 2007 08:15AM
Just imported itunes paid for track into imovie HD with a little DV footage exported QT movie high quality opened in quicktime export movie to aiff opens in FCP sweet

FinalCutStudio imovieHD QT 7.1.3

Derek
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 06, 2007 09:41AM
Are you still on iTunes 6? If my memory serves, it was a change made in iTunes, applicable to new purchases.

There was also one limitation which I'm not sure has been removed in iMovie: iMovie couldn't handle exporting audio in 48kHz. This workaround necessitates (used to necessitate?) dealing with 44.1kHz files, resaving them as 48kHz, etc.


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Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 06, 2007 11:46AM
That's amazing. Is there anyway I can get of copy of the .aiff file or QT file you made? I'll gladly reemburse you for it! Yes. I'm in iToons 6. Should I upgrade?
Re: Need help converting m4p itune download to aiff
February 06, 2007 04:17PM
I finally did what Derek suggested. It took a while for me to sort it out because I'm deleriously tired and I've never used iMovie before, but ultimately it worked!! All of you are tenacious geniuses! Thank you so much!!! I really appreciate it!
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