VISTA

I have a 5 yr old Windows machine on my network, primarily used for e-mail and web browsing.

I had Staples put VISTA on it, and of course VISTA is still waaaaaay behind OSX.

The purpose of my post is to share an experience with you all, so hopefully you won't have to go thru 3 hours of headbanging that I just did:

I recently installed VISTA (by Staples Easy Tech).

My network includes 1 VISTA machine and 3 OS X machines.

In Computer, I see the icons for the OS X machines. When I try to connect to
any of them, the user/pass authentication box appears, I type the username
and password, and Vista always reports that the connection was unsuccessful.

I then notice in one the "username" line that Vista has changed my
"username" from what I typed, to: "VistaMachinename\username" .

I don't get the need to alter my typing...

I do need to get back to work and be able to share files between my Mac and
Windows machines, like I was able to under 2000 and XP.

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You need to make these changes to work with Samba (used by OS X):

To enable Windows Vista to connect to Mac OS X (or any *nix) with
Windows File Sharing enabled, you will need to change the following
policy in Windows Vista:

Start>Run>secpol.msc [enter]

Click on "Local Policies" --> "Security Options"

Navigate to the policy "Network Security: LAN Manager authentication
level" and double-click it to get its Properties. By default Windows
Vista sets the policy to "NTVLM2 responses only". Use the drop-down
arrow to change this to "LM and NTLM ? use NTLMV2 session security if
negotiated".

In Vista Home Premium, you won't have this tool so per MVP Steve
Winograd, do:

1. Run the registry editor and open this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa

1. If it doesn't already exist, create a DWORD value named
LmCompatibilityLevel

3. Set the value to 1

4. Reboot

Malke
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Your FIX did work! Thank You.

I have VISTA Home Premium, no Start>Run box, but typing "run" in the Search
box did bring up the traditional Run box, and while Registry Edit(or) did not
yield any results... I did remember 10-15 yrs ago someone using the term
"regedit" which did work.

Being a Final Cut Pro video editor, I don't have a lot of time nor interest
to fiddle around with such core fixes on Windows.

If Microsoft/Windows wants to get in the space age, it might consider the
elementary principle of networking: we small business people spend money on
computers to use them to work.

Networking should be "on" and working, out of the box.

Again, Thank You for the fix, it worked.

Damn. I think only Graeme Nattress would understand this "fix"

That be wonderfully geeky. Great post. There is an article in there somewhere. Could be very funny.

BTW, most visitors to lafcpug do so on a Windows computer according to my web log. Traffic is down this last week or so. Must be becuase of Vista



Michael Horton
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Good thread for the stupid Mac guys like me.

I would love to have such a "fix" to get my "simple Windows XP" machine work with Macs.
I tried some similar things with no success.

Andreas

At a tech type meeting I was attending this weekend, a person who is ALL Windows mentioned that Vista is just like MacOS X! I had to choke to keep from laughing out loud.

Lemme see? They are how many years behind - 5 years????

Reminds me of the days of trying to get the only mac in the office, which was usually the Avid, onto a windows only network. No help from the IT people and no help from AVID who didn't want their precious boxes sullied by such things. Floppies were too small and removeable drives didn't exist. Spent way too much on Bernoulli, Jaz, and Zip because networking across platforms sucked.
If I remember correctly, up to and including Jaguar, Samba wasn't fully enabled in OS X either so dropping a Mac on an XP network wasn't always easy either.

This is good to know for when you show up at a site and the accounts dept. has put Vista boxes in front of everyone to update so they can keep up with their software and the whole network goes kablooie and the heads slowly turn to look at you because only you can use "trash preferences" and "rebuild directories" in a sentence without making a face.

ak
Sleeplings, AWAKE!

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1. Run the registry editor and open this key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
1. If it doesn't already exist, create a DWORD value named
LmCompatibilityLevel
3. Set the value to 1
4. Reboot

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<<<Vista is just like MacOS X! >>>

Sure it is. Why just last week I had to recompile my Tiger kernel...

What.

And yes, I have patched my Windows Registry(s). I think to solve a hard drive recognition problem.

I once had a software package that volunteered to migrate all my Registry changes from an old computer to a new one. Hey! Let's make the new computer as unstable as the old one! Yes!

I think I'd rather disembowel myself.

I think we treated the software package to aviation fuel and a match.

Koz

By the way, if you are thinking of using Windoze XT on your Boot camp installed INTELMAC...here's a doozy for you.

We installed Ultra (serious magic) on our Second partition rebootable MacBook Pro 17 inch laptop. The windows installation alone took hours...yes hours. And not unattended hours -- but sit there and click a lot of "do you want this and that" hours.

Then installed Ultra -- it works like a charm - but here's the catch. Boot Camp and Windows XT won't emulate a SOUNDBLASTER CARD - which Ultra needs to play back sound (or any sound from a video program - even QuickTime Videos) So no luck - haven't found something that will emulate that...so we had to do our ULTRA virtual set magic on the Windoze side of the Intel Mac -- without sound -- export the movie in QuickTime - without sound (even though it's there in the file - it won't play or expert under windows) Then bring back into Final Cut with a reboot...and resync the sound.

One colossal pain.

Oh, and one other thing - the Windows XT side won't recognize a Mac formatted Fire wire drive - only a PC formatted drive (Mac OS has no problems recognizing either drive)

Yes, Windows is a joy! Andy

RE: XP - My XP machine connected to OS X machines right out of the box... Network Neighborhood saw it right away, and vice versa OS X saw the XP machine. I don't currently have it on my network, I should to see how well it plays with the VISTA machine.



BTW - I still canNOT connect from OS X to VISTA, but I CAN from VISTA to OS X.

Thank You Bill Gates, and the millions you are spending on diseases in Africa. You should stay home and fix your more pressing matters.

Nick Baer Wrote:
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> RE: XP - My XP machine connected to OS X machines
> right out of the box... Network Neighborhood saw
> it right away, and vice versa OS X saw the XP
> machine. I don't currently have it on my network,
> I should to see how well it plays with the VISTA
> machine.
>
>
>
> BTW - I still canNOT connect from OS X to VISTA,
> but I CAN from VISTA to OS X.

Yeah I know I didn't have that much trouble when networking OS X to XP. Sounds like Vista is worse.

WTG Microsoft. Making things more difficult everyday!

Why do I associate Ford when I keep hearing Vista?

We'll be able to thank Windows for bringing back Hollywood's Golden Age of SIlent Movies!

Yes Nick -- silent movies -- I'll tell the client it was a "creative choice"

Does Gates still own a healthy percentage of Apple? Hmmm....

HarryD