Faking Camera Movement

i have been seeing a lot of this in commercials and i still cant recreate it.

example 1.

T Row Price has a commercial where they show an obscure angle on a football field the camera seems to pan to the right and suddenly you are looking at a doctor in a lab. The next pan you ate in an office setting and so on.

i cant see the seem but i know there is one nicely rotoscoped and the pans are meticulously planed but how?

also seen in a commercial made by grafixjoe as an example of cuts that are unseen.

example 2.

this is the one i am trying to recreate.

the back round is normally white a group of words are on the screen. Then there is a pan and suddenly there is a new set of text on the screen. As it pans i can see one text object leave the screen and the other coming on. It appears that the camera moved but i know there is no cam.

i also saw this in johans demo real

""" What you do with what you have, is more important than what you could do, with what you don't have."

> > > Knowledge + Action = Wisdom - J. Corbett 1992 """"

are there supposed to be video links in your post?

anyway, if i understand your description - you can do all that with keyframes or with a 3d camera in after effects

I dont have AE. i do have kinemac, motion2, shake.

is this possible with that?

i will try to find an example to post.

""" What you do with what you have, is more important than what you could do, with what you don't have."

> > > Knowledge + Action = Wisdom - J. Corbett 1992 """"

It's certainly possible to do it in shake, and you could approximate it in Motion 2 though it's not a 3d program. It's easiest in Motion 3 if you can upgrade.

Andy

"i also saw this in johans demo real"

-Didnt i send you a description of how it works?

In theory its really quite simple, the results depends on your source material.
i would def recommend After Effects over Shake for something like this.

Maybe its tutorial time?
but where to post an After Effects tutorial here?

Johan Polhem
Motion Graphics
www.johanpolhem.com

Johan is after effect the only place to do this type of editing?
I mean i a sitting on a 2 part decision here. Either i have to buy AE or i have to buy fcs2 with motion3 ( a program i all ready know).
I kinda thought that motion3 would be able to match AE.

I know you did it with AE so i may have to get both.

Oh and maybe you could write the tutorial as a fcp compositing technique. I don't know if mike would let it pass without mention of shake, fcp, or some part of the apple suit.

or you could just send it to me as a pm.

""" What you do with what you have, is more important than what you could do, with what you don't have."

> > > Knowledge + Action = Wisdom - J. Corbett 1992 """"

I want that part 2 of the Shake tutorial Johan. Part 1 is hugly popular. Getting tons of reads.

You can bang out an AE tutorial for lafcpug. Anything that helps folks is welcome here. Might not get as many reads as you want but sooner or later people discover it.

Michael Horton
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Motion 3 can match AE on this effect (as you have it described). Motion's only real big 3D hangup is their lighting. The camera settings aren't as deep as AE, lights can't cast shadows, but for what it sounds like you're trying to do, it's possible in either.

Andy

The bannerless Horton has spoken.

""" What you do with what you have, is more important than what you could do, with what you don't have."

> > > Knowledge + Action = Wisdom - J. Corbett 1992 """"

wait there is no filter that can create a shadow in motion3?

""" What you do with what you have, is more important than what you could do, with what you don't have."

> > > Knowledge + Action = Wisdom - J. Corbett 1992 """"

You can create shadows in Motion, but the light sources don't CAST shadows. In AE, if you apply a light to some text for instance, you can have the light cast a shadow. When you move the camera or the light, the shadow obeys according to the laws of physics as if the 3D object were real. There's no work for the designer. In Motion, you'd have to keyframe any shadow to get it to behave in that manner which is not easy.

Michael.

Yes you are right.
I have been VERY slow with that.
I just moved overseas and basically I have been busy.

I'll get on it as I have more time now.
Ill do the part 2 first and then if I have time, the After Effects one.

Johan

Johan Polhem
Motion Graphics
www.johanpolhem.com