I started right, then something happened...

Posted by ankawa 
I started right, then something happened...
August 18, 2009 07:04PM
I got some tapes shot anamorphically, I imported them into FCP correctly,

HEre is it



1) Correct Footage


2) settings


Settings in IDVD, it is 16:9
3)

encoding... burning .... it takes 2.5 hrs

I watched in my 4.3 TV, expecting to see the letterboxing (a black bar on top, a black bar on the bottom)

But.... guess what........
People looks normal, that is not stretch or squeezed.....
but I don see the black bars.
it looks like 16.9 pan-scan....

how can I fix it ?????
pleaseeee help

sad smiley




My project is ready to iDVD, so I exported it "Current Settings" and "MAke Self-Contained MOvie"
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 18, 2009 08:40PM
You don't need black bars. If it is 16:9 and you have it correct, the image should display in a widescreen shape without bars at the top and bottom or sides. Let go of the concept that black bars are good. Black bars just mean you are displaying 16:9 on a 4:3 television. Or you have something wrong.

Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 18, 2009 09:48PM
"Black bars just mean you are displaying 16:9 on a 4:3 television."

hey, Jude.
that's what ankawa is trying to do.

ankawa, have you checked your tv aspect / zoom settings?
no, hang on... 4/3 TVs don't have those..
try another tv?
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 18, 2009 10:28PM
Jude Cotter Wrote:
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> You don't need black bars. If it is 16:9 and you
> have it correct, the image should display in a
> widescreen shape without bars at the top and
> bottom or sides. Let go of the concept that black
> bars are good. Black bars just mean you are
> displaying 16:9 on a 4:3 television. Or you have
> something wrong.

i watched it in a 4.3 TV, i must have the black bars......
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 18, 2009 10:30PM
Nick, I will try it in a Sony 16.9 Tv.......




Nick Meyers Wrote:
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> "Black bars just mean you are displaying 16:9 on a
> 4:3 television."
>
> hey, Jude.
> that's what ankawa is trying to do.
>
> ankawa, have you checked your tv aspect / zoom
> settings?
> no, hang on... 4/3 TVs don't have those..
> try another tv?
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 18, 2009 10:31PM
I changed the QT file by doing this:

if you're going to iDVD, first open the file in QuickTime player,


1- Choose Window > Show Movie Properties.
2- In the Properties window, click Video Track in the Name column.
3- Click the Visual Settings button.
4- Deselect the checkbox for Preserve Aspect Ratio.
5- Change the Scaled Size:
For NTSC, enter 853 x 480.
For PAL, enter 1024 x 576.
Now the movie should be displayed at a 16:9 aspect ratio.

6- Choose File > Save to save the movie.

I burned a new DVD and guess what..... Not It looks worst....
it looks like if i did a zoom.... I tried in a 4.3 TV

why this is so complicated sad smiley
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 12:58AM
The problem might be with your DVD player. It might be forcing a Zoom display to the TV. What happens when you open the DVD on your Mac?

Andy
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 08:36AM
Quote

why this is so complicated

Because you continue to insist on using iDVD, despite having been told more than once that you should be using DVD Studio Pro for this.

Don't try to do professional-quality work with consumer tools. It's really not more complicated than that.

Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 08:55AM
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Because you continue to insist on using iDVD, despite having been told more than once that you should be using DVD Studio Pro for this.

Don't try to do professional-quality work with consumer tools. It's really not more complicated than that.

Yup I second that...

Don't use iDVD... Thats for Children and Grandparents to knock out home videos from iMovie NOT for someone using the ProApps for which DVD Studio Pro is supplied.

Anyone want to argue with me on that will have to arm-wrestle me first and I've been working out! HA!



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Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 12:10PM
Andy Neil Wrote:
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> The problem might be with your DVD player. It
> might be forcing a Zoom display to the TV. What
> happens when you open the DVD on your Mac?
>
> Andy


GRAB doesnt work while DVD player is playing a movie, it looks 4.3 but the menu looks 16.9
I played my movie in a Sony Widescreen TV and looks good, it fills the whole TV. No squeez people.

thanks
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 12:15PM
but..... idvd has better templates
i will try now DVD STudio PRo... thanks


Jeff Harrell Wrote:
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> why this is so complicated
>
> Because you continue to insist on using iDVD,
> despite having been told more than once that you
> should be using DVD Studio Pro for this.
>
> Don't try to do professional-quality work with
> consumer tools. It's really not more complicated
> than that.
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 12:21PM
There are wonderful templates for DVD Studio Pro out there. Just google.

Michael Horton
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Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 12:25PM
here is my version in DVD STudio PRO

but INTRO_OK cant connect to MENU1

sad smiley

Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 12:30PM
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but INTRO_OK cant connect to MENU1

Why not? How are you trying to connect it?

Right click the Intro and make it First Play. Then go to the inspector and select Menu1 from the end jump menu.

Andy

PS: Do you realize that your Menu2 is 4:3, not 16:9 like the rest of your DVD?
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 01:29PM
I went to my local B&N and they dont have in stock and cant order the DVD STudio Pro Book sad smiley what a shame sad smiley


I selected the INTRO_OK then Menu1 and click Connect (on the right side)...
I tried what you said... and It WorkED
I also fixed the aspect ratio of Menu2





THankkkkkk You..........



Andy Neil Wrote:
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> but INTRO_OK cant connect to MENU1
>
> Why not? How are you trying to connect it?
>
> Right click the Intro and make it First Play.
> Then go to the inspector and select Menu1 from the
> end jump menu.
>
> Andy
>
> PS: Do you realize that your Menu2 is 4:3, not
> 16:9 like the rest of your DVD?
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 02:32PM
I hope you realise the manual for DVD SP will tell you pretty much everything you need to know...



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Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 19, 2009 08:13PM
Ben King Wrote:
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> I hope you realise the manual for DVD SP will tell
> you pretty much everything you need to know...


yup, i was reading it, but the Apple Training Series Books are better explained...
thanks
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 20, 2009 12:00AM
ankawa Wrote:
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> Ben King Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I hope you realise the manual for DVD SP will
> tell
> > you pretty much everything you need to know...
>
>
> yup, i was reading it, but the Apple Training
> Series Books are better explained...
> thanks

well, I inserted a black DVD, and clicked on BURN,,,,, after a few minutes I got the following message:


I google it, and found no resuts....

sad smiley i feel i am 1 step from getting a correct dvd....
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 20, 2009 12:48AM
The message couldn't be clearer. How much material are you trying to fit onto one DVD, exactly?


www.derekmok.com
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 20, 2009 12:56AM
your encoder settings are too high.
so the final mpeg, plus the audio and whatever graphics are used, add up to more than the DVD can hold.

how are you encoding to mpeg?
if it's in DVDSP, the controls for this are in the preferences,
but to be honest, i wouldn't know what to recommend. sad smiley

this is because i use Compressor to encode,
and it has very simple presets.

also compressor will compress the audio (the AAC AC3 compressor setting is included in the presets)
and i'm not sure DVDSP does that.

there's a "Disk Meter" top right of the DVSP interface that shows you how much media you're trying to get onto the DVD.
and watch out, a 4.7 GB DVD disc will actually hold only 4.37 gigabytes

that's explained in the DVDSP help file in a chapter called "Making Sure your COntent Will Fit",
which you should read.


nick
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 20, 2009 01:01AM
PS:
if i were you, i'd add some chapters to that DVD.
there'll come a time when the happy couple will not want to watch thru the whole thing just to see cousin jimmy fall in the pool.


nick
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 20, 2009 02:40PM
derekmok Wrote:
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> The message couldn't be clearer. How much
> material are you trying to fit onto one DVD,
> exactly?

when I used IDVD to make this same DVD, iDVD didn't comply about that much material. iDVD just make it fit in a single layer DVD.

I guess I need to send it to Compressor first.....
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 20, 2009 02:43PM
I didnt send my material to compressor.....
I will try that tonight....

thanks

Nick Meyers Wrote:
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> your encoder settings are too high.
> so the final mpeg, plus the audio and whatever
> graphics are used, add up to more than the DVD can
> hold.
>
> how are you encoding to mpeg?
> if it's in DVDSP, the controls for this are in the
> preferences,
> but to be honest, i wouldn't know what to
> recommend. sad smiley
>
> this is because i use Compressor to encode,
> and it has very simple presets.
>
> also compressor will compress the audio (the AAC
> AC3 compressor setting is included in the presets)
>
> and i'm not sure DVDSP does that.
>
> there's a "Disk Meter" top right of the DVSP
> interface that shows you how much media you're
> trying to get onto the DVD.
> and watch out, a 4.7 GB DVD disc will actually
> hold only 4.37 gigabytes
>
> that's explained in the DVDSP help file in a
> chapter called "Making Sure your COntent Will
> Fit",
> which you should read.
>
>
> nick
Re: I started right, then something happened...
August 20, 2009 02:46PM
yes i included chapters, it is under MENU2.
I have 3 main chapters:
House
Ceremony
Reception
(I also did chapters every 10 minutes)
it is a Sweet 16 event.

THank you




Nick Meyers Wrote:
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> PS:
> if i were you, i'd add some chapters to that DVD.
> there'll come a time when the happy couple will
> not want to watch thru the whole thing just to see
> cousin jimmy fall in the pool.
>
>
> nick
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