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ProRes Proxy playback performancePosted by Tom Wolsky
I'm running ProRes Proxy on a 2.4 MacBook Pro, the Leverage material from the Weynand book to be precise, and am getting very poor playback performance. Lots of dropped frames and skipping large chunks of video. Much, much worse performance than DV material or even HDV material, and this is with media which has a data rate lower than DV. Is anyone else having similar performance problems with this?
Thanks very much.
I find it to be pretty solid on my Mac Pro from a fast system hard drive.
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I have the same laptop, and I captured 40 min of footage from HDCAM to ProRes Proxy via my Matrox MXO2 into my laptop on a G-Drive mini via FW800. Not one dropped frame. And editing performance has been normal.
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Hmmm...should work off the internal. DV does. I'll bet the dimensions are the reason it is skipping. Lower data rate, but large dimensions. I'll have to try to play some Proxys off my drive soon...
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OK Tom, I FINALLY copied over the ProRes Proxy clips to my system drive, and played them. I am getting no dropped frames, and overall performance is good. Been on a loop now for an hour while I went to lunch.
And the quality doesn't drop significantly when I play as opposed to when I am paused. There is no difference really. www.shanerosseditor.com Listen to THE EDIT BAY Podcast on iTunes [itunes.apple.com]
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I have a 1080i project, originally shot on HDV that I am outputting to tape on a DVCProHD (Panasonic 1200A) I'm using my Macbook Pro laptop, which I used to edit the project. As soon as I plug in the tape machine, the timeline won't play more than a couple of seconds without stopping with dropped frames. Is it a busing or flow problem with the two firewire connections? The external drive is in the 800 port, the DVCPro machine is in the 400. The timeline settings control the deck, but the timeline won't play unless the tape machine is unplugged from the computer.
Thanks! John
You are trying to Print HDV out to DVCPRO HD via firewire. IT won't work. The computer is outputting an HDV signal, but the DVCPRO HD deck doesn't recognize that signal. You need to export a self contained QT movie, convert that to DVCPRO HD 720p60, drop that into a 720p60 DVCPRO HD timeline, and then you can print to video via firewire.
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As per Shane's advice, but as you are working 1080i I'm not sure there's any reason to convert to 720p60 for your lay off. Shane knows DVCPRO HD far better than I do tho' and he may have good reason for suggesting this, but otherwise I'd transcode to DVCPRO HD as suggested but stick with 1080i.
OOp, sorry. I have it stuck in my head that DVCPRO HD on tape is 720p. Thanks Andy.
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> I have it stuck in my head that DVCPRO HD on tape is 720p.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't DVCPro HD on tape have both 720 and 1080 options? I've worked with both Varicam and tapeless HVX-200 footage, and all are 720 -- but I remember 1080 as being an option at the shooting stage. www.derekmok.com
Thank you for your help...I'll try that. The Panasonic 1200A does both 1080i and 720p. I already have the shows as self-contained files, since that was how they were delivered to the network and I was finally able to output them to tape by dropping them in the same timeline and using Print to Video, but every time there's a pan or fast camera movement, the video is jerky.
>the default DVCProHD 1080i is 1990x1080.
No it's not. DvcproHD 1080i is 1280x1080 in NTSC countries, and 1440x1080 in PAL countries. >but every time there's a pan or fast camera movement, the video is jerky. HDV isn't very good with motion. And if you rendered your footage out as HDV, you're taking double hits on mpeg compression. You could try rendering straight to dvcproHD. www.strypesinpost.com
When it comes to Varicam and TAPE, I am used to 720. I know 1080 is possible, but I have never used it, that is why 720p is stuck in my head.
>but every time there's a pan or fast camera movement, the video is jerky. Is the original footage 23.98? www.shanerosseditor.com Listen to THE EDIT BAY Podcast on iTunes [itunes.apple.com]
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DVCproHD Pixel Resolutions: DVCproHD 1080i50 is 1440x1080 - Displayed at 1920x1080 DVCproHD 1080i60 (actually 59.94i) is 1280x1080 - Displayed at 1920x1080 DVCproHD 720p for all frame rates (including VariCam) is 960x720 - Displayed at 1280x720 PAL and NTSC are Standard Definition only. Try not to mix PAL and NTSC up with HD in the same noun eg: "PAL HD" - it's a contradiction in terms! (Not that G was saying this but just for clarification!) For instant answers to more than one hundred common FCP questions, check out the LAFCPUG FAQ Wiki here : [www.lafcpug.org]
Thank you for all the good info, but I'm still confused...the raw clips were digitized from the HDV camera and came in as 1440x1080, 29.97, Apple intermediate Codec, Pixel aspect: HD 1440x1080. I allowed FCP to adjust the timeline to comply to those settings, edited 13 episodes and delivered them as Self-contained files, which aired fine. Now that I'd like to back them up on tape is where I'm having the issue with my DVCProHD machine. Most of my projects are DVCProHD, 720p, so this is my first 1080i project. Have I made mistakes in my initial settings, or is it just the conversion to put it to DVCProHD that's the problem?
Thanks again for your help.
THey are APPLE INTERMEDIATE files...from HDV. They are NOT DVCPRO HD files, and that is the only way you can print to video to the 1200 deck via firewire. So you need to convert them to DVCPRO HD, then output. Or get a capture card and output that way, SDI to the deck. Then it doesn't really matter what format they are in the timeline.
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