Speed changes and motion blur

Posted by TroyChristian 
Speed changes and motion blur
November 15, 2011 04:49PM
I have been doing a lot of research on super slow mo (overcranking) using my 7D. Seems like Twixtor is a viable (although expensive) option. Anybody want to chime in on successes and/or failures with it? Or other ways to acheive the same effect (1000fps ish)?

Also- is there a way to avoid motion blur when speeding footage up to say 400%??

Thanks!
Re: Speed changes and motion blur
November 15, 2011 05:08PM
There is a way to do it using Motion, but Twixtor does a better job. Make sure your backgrounds are not complex. The simpler the better, to reduce the 'warping' effect.

Here's a tutorial for doing it via Motion : [fcp.co]

Re: Speed changes and motion blur
November 15, 2011 05:18PM
Thanks Jude!
What is the filter in Motion?
My BG is stationary. It is the performers who are in motion. Got things here- dancers in super slow mo on one project and circus performers in fast mo on another. I think I have my head wrapped around the slow mo. I am guessing that the Motion filter could handle the fast too?
Re: Speed changes and motion blur
November 15, 2011 06:09PM
The Motion section is just changing the speed to 15% under Inspector > Properties > Timing. I use Optical Flow for the blending.

There's probably a better tutorial out there somewhere, but the premise is the same. Shoot at 60 (59.94) or 50 for PAL, retime to 15% in Motion, Export, conform to 23.98 (or 25 PAL) then import to FCP.

Re: Speed changes and motion blur
November 15, 2011 06:14PM
I've seen some good results using FCP X... ducking for cover
Re: Speed changes and motion blur
November 15, 2011 06:50PM
haha Russ ...

The Set Speed behavior looks markedly better than the old Command J in FCP.

I'll try that work flow Jude - and thanks!
Re: Speed changes and motion blur
November 15, 2011 11:27PM
Yeah...I don't know about FCPX (throwing furniture at Russ) as have not touched it yet - I hear it BUUUURRRRRNS. I tried that Motion bit. Lousy warpy distorted results.

Twixtor is the best out there for this. Have you seen the online test clips with skate boarders & BMX riders??? Incredible. Cost wise, it depends how important the shot is to your production. $565 is a pittance compared to how much it would cost to reshoot with a high speed camera. And I wouldn't use it in FCP...After Effects has a much better renderer and you can round trip to Premiere right from the timeline:

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When life gives you dilemmas...make dilemmanade.


Re: Speed changes and motion blur
November 16, 2011 02:20AM
I have seen them Joe - they look great. Certainly any of these options is better than the speed control in FCP. My problem with Twixtor at $595 is that I just bough two AVID MC dongle/licenses and am in between where I am going to land toolkit wise. So the purchase might not be the best investment at this point. I however, look forward to experiencing the good results first hand.

The Motion option surely isn't perfect but it is an improvement from FCP. I am thrilled today however, to be learning some cool new lessons after 11 years on FCP - thank you all!

btw - Russ - DUUUUCK!!!
Re: Speed changes and motion blur
November 16, 2011 02:51AM
In Avid, that Motion workflow is built into Avid. Launch the speed change tool, promote the effect to timewarp and switch to optical flow.



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Re: Speed changes and motion blur
November 16, 2011 03:39AM
I am finding the "optical flow" option to add warping and "none" to be cleaner ...
Re: Speed changes and motion blur
November 16, 2011 06:42AM
Hah hah, you guys are funny.
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