Contant crashes FC7

I have done the usual trashing the preferences, but I can't get the permissions repaired. I have done searches on the net and found others having the same problem, but no solutions.
I am color enhancing a movie I did in October and I need to have it ready for Tribeca Film Festival by January 4th, so I'll take any advise you can give.

Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro5,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per core): 256 KB
L3 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 14 GB
Processor Interconnect Speed: 5.86 GT/s
Boot ROM Version: MP51.007F.B03
SMC Version (system): 1.39f11
SMC Version (processor tray): 1.39f11
Serial Number (system): YM0351CVEUF
Serial Number (processor tray): J503405J4BH8B
Hardware UUID: E95F880C-7798-5986-94EC-802B5D564323

ATI Radeon HD 5770:

Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 5770
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 1024 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x68b8
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-C0160C-155
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.436
Displays:
LED Cinema Display:
Resolution: 2560 x 1440
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Display Serial Number: 2A03423K6JL
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported
Connection Type: DisplayPort
LW98:
Resolution: 1440 x 900 @ 60 Hz
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Display Serial Number: 51563JA015202
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected

ATI 5770 Graphic Card
Sonnet Tempo SATA E4P
Original BMD Decklink Extreme HD

God Bless,

Douglas Villalba
director/cinematographer/editor
Miami, Florida

[www.DouglasVillalba.info]
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is there anything in particular that triggers the crash?

what sort of media are you using?
what filters are you using to color correct?
how large is the project?


nick

Thanks for the response Nick.

What makes it happen more ofter is when I view to external monitor (Decklink Extreme HD original). Add a whole bunch of Red Giant Looks II filters and it is really hard to get anything done.

God Bless,

Douglas Villalba
director/cinematographer/editor
Miami, Florida

[www.DouglasVillalba.info]
[www.youtube.com]
[vimeo.com]

what sort of media?
how large are your projects?
how full are your drives?

"Add a whole bunch of Red Giant Looks II filters"

what, on one clip?


nick

Have you collapsed the multiclips before applying the color correction filter?



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Nick Meyers Wrote:
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> what sort of media?
> how large are your projects?
> how full are your drives?
>
> "Add a whole bunch of Red Giant Looks II filters"
>
> what, on one clip?
>
>
> nick

Thanks Nick,

Any media, HDV, Sony SxS 420 (from the F3) ProRes HQ.
50 MB
It don't matter. Main drive is a 4.5 TB RAID 0 with 1 TB free. I even bought 2-2 GB to see if that could be the problem, but no change.

God Bless,

Douglas Villalba
director/cinematographer/editor
Miami, Florida

[www.DouglasVillalba.info]
[www.youtube.com]
[vimeo.com]

strypes Wrote:
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> Have you collapsed the multiclips before applying
> the color correction filter?


Thanks Strypes

There are no multiclips. There is only 6 tracks of video and 6 of sound, but there is no compositing.

God Bless,

Douglas Villalba
director/cinematographer/editor
Miami, Florida

[www.DouglasVillalba.info]
[www.youtube.com]
[vimeo.com]

That's probably the limits of the 32 bit architecture in FCP. When it overloads, it crashes. Processor intensive media tends to crash FCP, processor intensive plugins if not used sparingly, has a tendency to do the same. Reducing the render precision to 8 bits YUV tends to reduce that load, resulting in fewer crashes than if you are rendering in 32 bit floating point, or "high precision YUV", as FCP calls it. Slow disk I/Os also play a part- when there is insufficient throughput, the machine loads to RAM in an attempt to stabilize things. FCP is able to address 4 gigs of RAM, and if RAM is used up (not sure how disk swap works, but it seems relatively problematic), it also becomes crashier.



www.strypesinpost.com

I'm stock with FC7 and a MAC "Pro" 8 core Zeon Westmere with 14 GB RAM a 27" Apple LED monitor and a RAID that runs at 300 MB that can't handle simple editing.

I have to finish this feature with what I started with, so What can I do to finish it on time for TRIBECA January 4th 2012? I have finished picture lock, I'm just coloring.

What do FC full time editors do?

God Bless,

Douglas Villalba
director/cinematographer/editor
Miami, Florida

[www.DouglasVillalba.info]
[www.youtube.com]
[vimeo.com]

Heavy color correction is not simple editing.

What do I do? In FCS, I send it to Color. If you have the DaVinci Resolve, that is a very useful tool for color correction. Both these are more powerful and work more efficiently than the tool you are using, which is a good story teller, not a vfx box.



www.strypesinpost.com

I agree, but for simple, non compositing, plain cuts? Something is got to wrong here.
Ever since that Apple pro apps upgrade FC has been crashing. I tried going back to a previous version, but I locked the computer and had to go the Apple Store Genius to get it going again.
Most of my work is 30 secs. so it never bother me before.

God Bless,

Douglas Villalba
director/cinematographer/editor
Miami, Florida

[www.DouglasVillalba.info]
[www.youtube.com]
[vimeo.com]

Then there is something wrong with your install, or your computer. Simple cuts with no FX shouldn't be crashing. Layers of clips with lots of filters can get narky, but people regularly cut features with high end imports with no trouble.

"I agree, but for simple, non compositing, plain cuts? Something is got to wrong here."

didn't you say it was all the instances of RedGiant Looks that was causing the crashes?
anyway, i cant really comment on that as i haven't used it.

apart from getting your film graded elsewhere, which is what i would do as i am not a colourist,
i would suggest breaking your project up.

do you have the whole feature in one timeline?
that could be a source of problems.
split it into 15-20 minute sections, and have each section in it's own Project, and work in that alone.


nick

That's what I'm saying. I even created a self contained clip and put it on the TL and it still crashed.
Last week I did a clean install of the OS and FCS. I don't know what else to try and I am afraid to freeze the computer again trying to use and old pro app.
Would installing Lion help?

God Bless,

Douglas Villalba
director/cinematographer/editor
Miami, Florida

[www.DouglasVillalba.info]
[www.youtube.com]
[vimeo.com]

I'd run a system hardware check to verify that all your memory is within spec. Something is definately wonky here.

FCP 7.0.3, PPro CS5.5, MPro Octo 2.8, 16 gigs RAM, Matrox MXO2, Sony EX1

Try Digital rebellions tools - there is a free trial which can give you great diagnostics on what the problem is. And then buy it, because it's an awesome suite of tools.

[www.digitalrebellion.com]

For full disclosure, I do beta test these, but they are genuinely awesome.