29.97 vs 59.94

The vast majority of footage for a project I'm working on is DVCPRO HD 960x720, 59.94

We had some new footage come in that I want to conform to match the older footage. Can I transcode it to match the codec and size, but keep the frame rate at 29.97?

I'm using FCP 7. Thanks!

What format is this new footage? And yes, you can mix 29.97 and 59.94 together fine...they have a common frame count ratio. With 29.97, frames are simply doubled. Unlike trying to mix 23.98 and 29.97...where there's noticeable stutter because they are slightly different.


www.shanerosseditor.com

Listen to THE EDIT BAY Podcast on iTunes
[itunes.apple.com]

Shane writes-

[Unlike trying to mix 23.98 and 29.97...where there's noticeable stutter because they are slightly different.]

Agh! I thought these two rates were totally compatible, mathwise. You're saying there's a stutter risk when you mix them? How do you solve that?

- Loren

Today's FCP 7 keytips:
Copy clip Attributes with Command-C
Paste selected Attributes with Option-V
Remove selected Attributes with Command-Option-V !

Your Final Cut Studio KeyGuide™ Power Pack.
Now available at KeyGuide Central.
www.neotrondesign.com

Loren...you are kidding, right? I mean...you are more knowlegeable about this than I am...

Adding pulldown to 23.98 to make it INTERLACED 29.97 works. That's been done for years and years on TV shows. The fields in the 29.97 help smooth out the 23.98 footage. BUT...going 23.98 to progressive 29.97 doesn't work. Nor does going 29.97 to 23.98...odd random frames are removed...like every 4th one. Thus the stutter. 30 to 60, or 60 to 30 is easy...either double every frame for 30 to 60...or remove every other frame for 60 to 30. Simple.


www.shanerosseditor.com

Listen to THE EDIT BAY Podcast on iTunes
[itunes.apple.com]

No, in this case, not kidding at all. In reality I don't encounter a lot of mixed I and P format footage in projects. I do get a mix of 23.98 and 29.97 footage but I've never seen a stutter. I must live a sheltered life.

How would you solve that? Transcode the 24P to I? Do you need a Teranex for this?

- Loren

Today's FCP 7 keytips:
Copy clip Attributes with Command-C
Paste selected Attributes with Option-V
Remove selected Attributes with Command-Option-V !

Your Final Cut Studio KeyGuide™ Power Pack.
Now available at KeyGuide Central.
www.neotrondesign.com

Ah...

When I get 23.98 and 29.97...I REALLY hope I'm delivering 29.97 interlaced, because that's the only smooth way to do it. For that I use Compressor and a secret sauce of settings...that I can post if you all want me to. VERY easy. And very clean. As for 23.98 progressive to 29.97 progressive...even a terranex would repeat frames. I found that Compressor does nearly as good of a job as the Terranex, but lately I've used Adobe Premiere CC for this conversion...and upconversion of SD to HD as well. because it's very clean and very good. Now After Effects does an even BETTER job...and one of my bosses had a knack for doing amazing conversions. But kept the settings to himself to keep him employable. But I know someone must have the settings out there somewhere.


www.shanerosseditor.com

Listen to THE EDIT BAY Podcast on iTunes
[itunes.apple.com]

Ok, if I see this noxious stutter, I'm running back here. Thanks, Shane.

- Loren

Today's FCP 7 keytips:
Copy clip Attributes with Command-C
Paste selected Attributes with Option-V
Remove selected Attributes with Command-Option-V !

Your Final Cut Studio KeyGuide™ Power Pack.
Now available at KeyGuide Central.
www.neotrondesign.com

The question whether 2:3 pulldown results in juddery picture was discussed at length in a Jan-Feb strand. View the demos (link posted 11 Feb) and decide for yourself.

Dennis Couzin
Berlin, Germany