delete sequence, canvas goes too.

It's $#% confusing that when you delete the unused sequence in a new project---even after capturing other footage, the timeline and canvas disappears and you can't get it back.
this is really baffling.

How can you retrieve the canvas/timeline?? The items are greyed out under window.
IF u must have a least one sequence to maintain a canvas/timeline, how can u get it back to create it?
I guess the deal is that even though I've imported footage, I haven't created a sequence from it yet.
OK,
How to retrieve the timeline etc....

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Footage is the source material for your "show", it is what you capture from tape. The sequence is a set of decisions to play back in a certain order clips from your source material. The way you new your sequence is via the Canvas and Timeline windows.

So if you delete your sequence, you lose the edited program, the "show". Since the canvas and timeline are the visual representations of the sequence, they're gone too.

The source footage remains, of course, since it is never modified by the sequence.

yep. 10.4.
however, I just the default sequence that is always there when opening a new project. I never got as far as creating a "real" sequence of any material. Once you delete it and your canvas/timeline goes with it, you can't undo or get it back. I'm left with my capture footage and no ability to do anything with it since the canvas and timeline are gone.
Even if u create a new sequence, the timeline will not appear. This is really aggrevating and I don't see a purpose.

File > New > Sequence. Voila, a sequence. Double click it and the timeline and canvas are magically recreated with your new sequence in it. Empty, just like "Sequence 1" in a new project, ready to start populating with clips. Why would you need to "get back" an empty sequence? Just create a new one. Nothing to fret about.

Scott

Thx Scott.
Double clicking was the only thing I didn't try. I still think it's something that is unnecessary and could cause confusion for anyone. If one deletes the opening sequence, it should just go away.
thx again for your help.

"if one deletes the opening sequence, it should just go away. "

it did!

> Once you delete it and your canvas/timeline goes with it, you can't undo or
> get it back.

Yes, you can. If you didn't run out of Undos, it'll come right back. That said, you should always be very careful about deleting things in your Browser. Move slow and observe carefully, because many Browser actions are forever. (Make Offline + Delete from Disk, for example)

Not to beat this into the ground but....
IMHO, there is no purpose for the opening sequence. Your first sequence should be the one you create from your source material. However, since that's not the case, if you delete this opening sequence, the canvas and timeline shouldn't disappear. No point for this except confusion.

I'll let this go now. : - )

I'm sorry, but that's completely ridiculous, and a complete misunderstanding of how the application works and what the two windows represent. They're displays of a sequence. No sequence, nothing to display, no windows.

Your source material has nothing at all to do with any sequences until you put them into a sequence. If you don't have a sequence you can't put them into one. If the sequence isn't open, then you can't put the source material into the sequence. Open the sequence and you get the windows.

The QuickTime player behaves the same way. If you close the window and nothing is open, you don't get a blank window with controls, you get nothing until something is opened.



All the best,

Tom

Final Cut Pro's ability to deal with multiple timelines (ie. Sequences) in the same project file necessitates the above system. Otherwise, how can you know which sequence the timeline you're editing belongs to?

I think Dave might be thinking a little more along the lines of Adobe Premiere. Last I used Premiere (years ago, so my memory of the interface might be off), there are no sequences. The timeline *is* part of the project file, and you can't have multiple timelines in the same project file. All the windows come up when you launch the application, and if the timeline is closed, so is the project file. Finally, in Premiere in the old days, you watched your raw footage in the same monitor window as the timeline, so you don't use a "Canvas" window. In that case, every project file has one solitary timeline. But with FCP's multi-sequence setup (which I loved once I understood it), you have to have each Timeline intrinsically linked to its source Sequence, or you'll have chaos.

Amen.

I agree it's a little offputting to see the windows go away when the sequence is removed but it's also pretty elegant. No sequence, no Tmeline or Canvas. I also suspect the default "Sequence 1" is Randy Ubillos' nod to Premiere users, he being the lead architect of both, separated by many years. Avid for instance requires that you explicitly make a first New Sequence to display the windows, or make an edit into the blank timeline before it'll display an "Untitled Sequence" for you. So take some comfort from that, Dave. FCP is a well-organized interface, you'll acquire it.

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That freaks out Avid editors too. The Timeline and Record Window are permanent parts of the interface, where in FCP they are sequence specific.

Kevin Monahan