Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?

Posted by Loren Miller 
Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 10, 2006 02:38PM
The client has three Intel Mac Mini's with 60GB serial ATA in each. The idea is to synch up each of three screens and play each screen out to an LCD or plasma-- assume 20" 4:3 screens.

I was disheartened at the quality of H264 at 800K, and I certainly don't want to try celphone screen at 40K. We're very jaded here, coming form 10-bit uncompressed! :-(

Anybody exporting QuickTime for computer playback through DVI? What's your favorite high quality export settings... and do you use Compressor 2 or bypass it for QT Conversion?

We'r ehoping for better than DV-NTSC or MPEG-2, but you tell me.
TIA

-lsm
Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 10, 2006 03:00PM
Why not just a self contained QT movie? What do you need to compress it for?

Michael Horton
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Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 10, 2006 05:49PM
All the tests have been self-contained, and DV-NTSC was one of them, and looks okay-- it's the baseline.

-lsm
Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 10, 2006 06:31PM
Then why quicktime conversion? I can't imagine H.264 looking better than native DV NTSC assuming that was your media.

Michael Horton
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Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 11, 2006 09:21AM
What program are you using to actually play the video out, Loren? Like Mike says - why the need to convert at all?

Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 13, 2006 04:33AM
Client s using QuickTime Player Pro. With some expert advice we decided on DVCPro 50 aas an export codec, set at High and NOT best, which seems to fall apart-- maybe the QT team was dislexic and gave the Best data rate to Low. Anyway, that's why we recompress, we are downconverting and each strip needs to bve a self-contained 40-minute clip. Passing through 10-bt uncompressed won't play on a Mac Mini.

That seems to work but now they're experimenting with triple-Mini playback for an art installation to be set up in Spain. This means carrying three Minis and synching three movies for three screens for a simultaneous start. I never played with that idea. Client said an artist friend has used iCal to trigger the playback to the split second! Sounded cool. If they get it working I'll report back.

If anyone has ideas on good weays to control three Minis and keep them in synch (remember, 50 cycles/second power over there, not 60 like here in US) I want to hear! This client is reinventing Cinerama

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Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 13, 2006 10:49AM
This: http://www.matrox.com/mga/workstation/cre_pro/news/expanded_compat_pr_june06.cfm, combined with a single, faster machine, might be a simpler, more elegent solution.

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Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 14, 2006 04:49AM
friends of mine did exactly this for a gallery display a while back.
3 (or 4?) mac minis linked

i think they used DVCProHD as the codec.
and there was one mac min set up to control the others via some software.
not iCal, though i'd love to hear more about that.
i''ll report back when i find out what they used.

nick
Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 14, 2006 07:03AM
details:

original media HDV
converted to DVCProHD 720 for playback
software was Pro Video Player & Remote Desktop to control the various Mac Minis
installation ran continuously for at least 8hrs a day.

love to hear more about the iCal thing

cheers,
nick
Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 14, 2006 11:39PM
That would make a great tutorial - I've been asked for ideas for a similar design for a friend doing work for a real estate agent. They were quoted $45,000 to set up a 3 screen display in their shopfront, which involved the most bizzare setup of servers and cabling, and we were sure it could be done with a couple of mac minis.

So the remote desktop on one triggers the others to play in sync?

What about - even older technology - just run off one computer and put the signal through a Distrubution Amp out to the three screens?? There would be plenty of old VHS dub facilities willing to sell some of those off, surely.

Or - if you need three different displays all in sync - there's the cheap as chips but works everytime method. Get a long stick. Line up the three keyboards. Mount a knob on the stick over the enter key of all three keyboards. Press the stick down. Viola! Simultaneous starts. smiling smiley

Oh - and for best effect, make sure to make the stick out of titanium or carbon fibre. Much more professional looking winking smiley

Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 15, 2006 08:22AM
I wonder if it's possible to use one keyboard and take the USB out through a USB hub to the three Minis. Click the enter key and all three play.
Re: Best Export for Mac Mini Playback to Plasma?
October 16, 2006 12:03PM
We did the same thing with three identical DVD players for a trade show. Hit them with one remote but it wasn't consistant. Next time will use Tascam DV-D6500 decks with serial control.
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