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BBC endorce FCP on Apple Site (and Buffy the Vampire Slayer discussion)Posted by Phil UK
Yep very cool - I had a conversation with head of desktop editing at BBC Woodlane when FCP was at version 3 and told him to "watch that one" (pointing at FCP3 on a Mac in the corner) - it's gonna change the face of TV editing...
They've been slowly moving to FCP over the last couple of years and Granada Television too are very large users of Final Cut Pro along with Xserve. The last few TV series/documentaries I have worked on have used FCP throughout and is the official edit system of choice for almost all the next ones albeit from 1 documentary that has a partial edit on Avid Adrenaline... As well as FCP offline, I'm FCP onlining: BBC3 Grime Scene Investigation, BBC1 When Love comes to Town & BBC1 Seaside Rescue. Ben For instant answers to more than one hundred common FCP questions, check out the LAFCPUG FAQ Wiki here : [www.lafcpug.org]
Michael, Michael, Michael...
It's payback for years of "candid camera" and the "worlds funniest home videos" shows... Now where did I put that copy of "deal or no deal"? Ben For instant answers to more than one hundred common FCP questions, check out the LAFCPUG FAQ Wiki here : [www.lafcpug.org]
"Kids do the funniest Things"... "My Aunts sisters next door neighbours cat does some mildly interesting things... occasionally"
The biggest problem is trying to persuade all these avid editors that stumble around on FCP for the first time is that "yes, really, honestly, thats all you have to do"... "yes no it really is that simple"
Wow Ben, you edited 'Seaside Rescue'??...unlike reality TV (the lowest common denomenator of this crass cult of celebrity program making where socialogically average people clog up the airwaves..Big Brother I cannot deal with and never have...) Seaside Rescue is a classic...what English TV is all about. Informative tales of bravery on the coasts of this fair isle.
Hey..Cops is good and has been on a long time...but I look back to the golden age of US TV..I grew up on the Odd Couple (not the film) MASH..the first series before Alan Alda took over...so I feel that like the UK this reality thing won't go down in history as relevant like say Fawlty Towers or I Love Lucy if you catch my drift...like music TV has eaten itself..sad..thank god for My Name Is Earl and Gerry Seinfeld...the Simpsons..at least we still have our sense of humor.
Now I wouldn't say Baywatch was a bad thing...
Years ago in my single days on Saturday nights it gave me a head start when out "on the pull" as most of the competition (the eager watchers), stayed in to watch Yasmine run, Yasmine run! I like the US office, its not as embarrassing/cringeworthy as the British one for me, but I guess if it has the same effect on those of you with a US view on life then it will achieve the same result. Changing the topic slightly... I would have loved to work on the first season of "24" I have been addicted ever since! Season 5 DVD boxset should land on my doorstep in a couple of days. w00t! If fact I would have loved to have worked on "Lost" as well... or "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Ben For instant answers to more than one hundred common FCP questions, check out the LAFCPUG FAQ Wiki here : [www.lafcpug.org]
Jude and Ben are Buffy fans?
I was quite enamoured with the show. But then the strangest thing happened...Buffy became the worst character on her own show while the supporting characters -- all the way from Willow, Xander, Faith, Spike, Dawn, Giles, Anya, the Potentials, even Amy the Rat -- continued to delight and surprise to the very end. A little 'Buffy lore' to brighten the day... |:} www.derekmok.com
It's true there was a 'Happy Buffy season', 'Depressed Buffy season' thing going on. But that show consistently delivered. And pushed the boundaries - ref: the 'Hush' episode, for eg. Or the Musical.
And besides, I would have been a bit dissapointed if she bounced back too quickly from being torn out of eternal bliss to come back to Earth and get back to work. I was kind of glad they let her be sullen about it for a reasonable length of time. Did I mention that geeks are cool? Geeks are still cool, right?
Yep they are still cool...
LOL I like your new tag... I prefer this though: FAQ off and RTFM For instant answers to more than one hundred common FCP questions, check out the LAFCPUG FAQ Wiki here : [www.lafcpug.org]
I didn't mind "depressed Buffy" too much...that's Season 6. In fact, some of their best comic writing was during that season.
(Off Gnome statue on her lawn" "What's that horrible little thing doing on my lawn? Was it Willow? 'Cause if I'd known she'd done that, I would've come out of the grave sooner." "Amy. How've you been?" "Rat. You?" "Dead." "Oh." My problem was when the character became holier than thou. "We don't kill humans, it's not the way." And the way she talks to Faith in Seasons 3 and 7. Ugh. And we love geeks! All the weirder villains (Faith, Mayor, Glory, Spike, Evil Willow) are far better than the trying-to-be-scary villains (Preacher Caleb, The Master, Evil Angel, The Initiative). Okay, I'll shut up about Buffy Lore now. www.derekmok.com
>>FAQ off and RTFM<<
Heh. Nice one Ben. I certainly feel that way some days. Not lots of days, just some days. Derek - I am so on the verge of falling into a mad fan black hole and hijacking this thread to rave about Buffy. Must ...resist... temptation ... Doh. No. Can't do it. I didn't mind the 'I'm depressed because I was dead' series. I didn't like the 'I'm depressed because my army boyfriend is a loser' series. Couldn't even begin to think which was my favourite line. And so much kudos for building a story arc that spans eight series. And for making every picture beautiful. Cast, sets, lighting, camera angles, sfx. All at top quality, week after week after week. Come back to us Joss!
Boy, that "c" in "endorce" [sic] has been driving me crazy!
> I didn't like the 'I'm depressed because my army boyfriend is a loser' series. You're tellin' me! What they ever saw in Marc "My Face Is a Loaf of White Bread and I'm All outta Jam" Blucas, I can't come close to fathoming. www.derekmok.com
Just to add the debate...America has always made great TV series..even the old cheesy ones like Mr Ed, The Andy Griffith Show had their alure..In England we love American culture..end of story. But - England is pretty hot at the moment for comedy..look out for 'Peap Show' in the US. But reality TV? You want reality TV? Go the aimimage.com and check out Roadside USA, Terra Circa and Mondo Enduro..that will clarify somewhat the difference between Reality and "Reality TV" ...Ben and Jude - I hope you get the 24 gig..you'll be cutting in a mobile unit.
Francois
Are you subtley pointing out how OT we are being? Anyway back to the slayer... A few of my fave Buffy lines:
Ahhh fond memories... Grrrr arrrgh! Ben For instant answers to more than one hundred common FCP questions, check out the LAFCPUG FAQ Wiki here : [www.lafcpug.org]
My significant other was a regular poster to one of the Buffy boards back in the day. She was/is a Big Fan. She met up with a few of them. I don't want to sound like a snob or anything but I will end up sounding like one so let me say this, there is such a thing has having too much time on your hands. Cured the SO from wanting to go to anymore of those meetings. Still a great show, especially after having to defend your choice from people who thought it was a "only" a kids show.
Oh and while I am being a snob, Koz, Hersheys ain't chocolate.( see [www.lafcpug.org] for reference) yours in misanthropy and trolling for flame ak ak Sleeplings, AWAKE!
We have a show and tel forum. It's a lot of fun and just getting started.
[www.lafcpug.org] Michael Horton -------------------
I'd volunteer for Buffy Modding. Hell - I was seriously considering doing an honours thesis on Buffy, specifically examining the 'forbidden sexuality' connotations of the vampirism, and Buffy's love/hate relationship with it. Your'e a ... vampire? Uh.. not that there's anything wrong with that..
>>defend your choice from people who thought it was a "only" a kids show<< You know, more often than not, I've found that the people I most worry about thinking I'm some sort of freak for liking a 'kids show' immediately jump in with how much they like and respect the show. Ref : this entire thread the moment the B word came out. AK - you're right. There is such a thing as going too far. I think that might be personality based though.
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