Each clip is a nest!!!??

I had a timeline come to me today where each clip
was a nest...Yup.
Apparently, The assistant syncd the dailies that way.
Then the editor cut it into the sequence that way.
So it came to me to color. (FCP 5.1.2)
How do I make these 200 nested clips into individual clips?
The effects from the nest doesn't appear in the main sequence
Plus the clips in the nest are long and
used in several intercut scenes. It can't get clip
colored corrected. What can I do???
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

JC

You could open up each nest and copy paste the clips inside to a new sequence, but .. I can;t quite get my head around what has been done. Dragging a nest from the browser to the timeline with the apple key held will break the nest back into clisp, but I just tried this sequence to sequence and it doesn't work that way. Also, you're likely to lose any FX on the clips insode the enst doing it this way.

What you might have to do is CC the nests. To work on a nest in the viewer, rather than double clicking it, click it once and press return. This loads the nest into the viewer for adjustments. Oh yeah - and you'll have to blade the cuts, too, I guess. What a PITA.

> I had a timeline come to me today where each clip
> was a nest...Yup.
> Apparently, The assistant syncd the dailies that way.

Hoo boy.
Twenty bucks says the assistant doesn't edit.
The real way to do this would have been to link the audio and video clips, then drag them back into a bin to make new, non-nest master clips, and retain the sync sequences purely as reference.
I might still consider doing that. Nests chew up a whole lot of RAM and complicate the editing process, and in your case, for no good reason.

I hope you paid by the hour.


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as you're near the end of the chain you might as well just do what Jude suggests, and add the CC to the nested clips.

it's possible to un-nest the clip,
but it;s pretty time consuming

what do they want to happen with the show AFTER CC?


nick

The show needs credits and some other little things. I'm going to send a link to this page to the editor and see if it gives him some insight as to what might be done. It's a really great little picture and I'd like to help them out. I just can't do the un-nesting myself. It needs to be the editor who does it. I don't wanna get into something that not my deal. I was hoping some body had an idea on un-nesting that was more easily done. If anyone reading this has the magic bullit
for this let me know. Thanks for all your input.

JC

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JC
I just can't do the un-nesting myself.

and you dont have to.
simply add the CC to the nested clips.
as Jude said, it;s just a matter of OPTION double clicking them to open in the viewer for tweaking.
it'd be worth seeing if the "Open" playhead sync mode works with the nests, too.


nick

Hi All

this is how to return nests to clips ---

Highlight nest in timeline - (or in bowser browser ? --)

then drag on the nest - (move short distance -)

Then While you are dragging nest--

Hold Down Apple key and drag to Viewer --

If you hit Apple key before starting to move nest --
- It Wont work - -- Jay -

cant get it to work, Jay.

but open mode works on a nest,
as does simply jumping from clip to clip (nest to nest) in the viewer,
so there's no real impediment to CCing the way it is.
if it;s not a huge film it shouldnt be too slow.


nick

And like I said, you can undo the nest by copy pasting, or by dragging from the browser to the timeline with the key held, but you will lose any fx the editor has already got in place on the nest, so you would need find out what they are and reapply them to all the unested clips. If this included speed changes it would be a total headache.

OK, if it DOES go back to the cutting room,
here is how to De-Nest:

(I cant get Jay's method to work, so here is how i do it

the trick is you open the nest from the timeline into the viewer.
from there, you can make a subclip.
a new nested seq appears in the browser TRIMMED TO JUST THE SECTION USED.
you then Apple-drag that back to the timeline.

this is the ONLY way i know how to do this.
and here's a real gotcha:
the new sub-nest only folows the duration of teh picture,
so if you have split edits,you have to do picture in one pass, then sound in another


here is how you would do a long project:
PICTURE ONLY!
make a copy of the sequence,'
delete all the audio
make a new bin in the browser, open it in it;s own tab,(option double click on it)
put the copied sequence in it
add some asterisks to it so it's name sits at the top.

open the first clip into the viewer
Apple U to make a sequence subclip or "sub-nest"
the new trimmed sequence subclip appears in the browser in the new bin.

Apple 1 to go back to the viewer.
down arrow to take you to the next clip,
Apple U again.

don't do it for the whole timeline.
just do twenty or so for starters.
(heck, do three for starters, then build up to twenty or so. take it further if you feel you can
NB: you'd have to stop a series when you come to a gap in the timeline)

the trick to apple dragging a group:
select,
drag from browser,
THEN hold Apple

drop them on a track above the nested versions.
the duration's should tell you if you've got them lined up or not.
double check that close up before you do the next group

then, i'd probably triple check before handing it over:

either by toggling visibility,
or possibly simpler:
re-sizing each track to a left/right box situation


yes,
it;s a long hard process

would be simpler to export the timeline,
bring that back in,
and blade i up using a copy of the cut sequence as a guide.

or just work with the nested clips



nick

OOOPs you hold down the Option Key
not the command key

nope. that doesn't work either.

maybe i'm doing something wrong,
but it;s a pretty fiddley operation.
too much manual work to do for each & every clip.

the subclip method will be faster on a job like this.
although doing nothing will be faster still


nick