XDCAM and ProRes 422 HQ

Posted by mark@avolution 
XDCAM and ProRes 422 HQ
August 22, 2008 08:45AM
We are doing somw work in XDCAM 1080 24p.

For settings am I better off

a)Setting the Sequence to XDCAM 1080p 24 with Render Set to ProRes.

OR
b) Setting my Sequence to ProRes 1080 24p from the getgo?

I have heard ProRes smokes XDCAM for generational (rendering) integrity.

As XDCAM is a long format GOP I am thinking that staying native ProRes
and rendering all the XDCAM to ProRes is better; as XDCAM doesn't like to
be used as a editing format?


Your thoughts on this?

thanks
Re: XDCAM and ProRes 422 HQ
August 22, 2008 03:16PM
Here we work exclusivly with MAC and FCP and we capture everything HD in ProRes. It work really well you should capture ProRes too.
Re: XDCAM and ProRes 422 HQ
August 22, 2008 03:50PM
Thanks for the info!

Do you find the export as ProRes422 HQ to be insanely long
proRes to proRes;

since the project is done (and the timeline was XDCAM and not proRes)
here is what I found
XDCAM timeline to XDCAM codec out (the old way)
13minutes30 movie HD on an Apple G5 2.5Ghz, 2G Ram SCSI320 RAID

time to output XDCAM to XDCAM about 30 minutes

to export from XDCAM to ProRes HQ 3hours45minutes!!!!!!!!

now if I capture (more like ingest) to a proRes timeline I am hoping that
I don't have 20:1 export times-but maybe the crazy XDCAM to ProRes was due
to transcoding issues-hopefully a ProRes to Export as QT-current settings-self contained
will be much faster



Francois-Michel Wrote:
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> Here we work exclusivly with MAC and FCP and we
> capture everything HD in ProRes. It work really
> well you should capture ProRes too.
Re: XDCAM and ProRes 422 HQ
August 22, 2008 08:24PM
I dont really understand what you mean by exporting XDCAM to ProRes. Do you mean Exporting a QT Movie...???.

I'll give you an example of what i mean about our post house capturing in ProRes :

Here we got several shows shooted in DVCPRO HD. For instance we got one that has been shooted in DVCPRO HD 1080i 59.94.

Instead of capturing the footage with the DVCPRO codec in FCP we capture it with 1080i 59.94 Apple ProRes 4:2:2 HQ.

Of course media files are much bigger in size since 1 hour of DVCPRO HD captured with the DCVPRO HD codec in FCP is 48.88 GB versus 92.93 GB with ProRes. But the look of ProRes is far better specially in blacks.
Re: XDCAM and ProRes 422 HQ
August 23, 2008 02:58PM
What I meant is that the movie that was done was ingested to
an XDCAM codec; as I did not know about ProRes at the time.
Therefore anything that came out of the movie would have to
have been transcoded from the timeline codec of XDCAM to the
finishing codec of ProRes.




Francois-Michel Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I dont really understand what you mean by
> exporting XDCAM to ProRes. Do you mean Exporting a
> QT Movie...???.
>
> I'll give you an example of what i mean about our
> post house capturing in ProRes :
>
> Here we got several shows shooted in DVCPRO HD.
> For instance we got one that has been shooted in
> DVCPRO HD 1080i 59.94.
>
> Instead of capturing the footage with the DVCPRO
> codec in FCP we capture it with 1080i 59.94 Apple
> ProRes 4:2:2 HQ.
>
> Of course media files are much bigger in size
> since 1 hour of DVCPRO HD captured with the DCVPRO
> HD codec in FCP is 48.88 GB versus 92.93 GB with
> ProRes. But the look of ProRes is far better
> specially in blacks.
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