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Anyone using a HACKENTOSH?
Posted by Ed Green
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 03:22PM |
Mac OS X is only licensed to run on computers built and sold by Apple. Legally, no other company can sell computers with Mac OS X on them. And legally, you can't install Mac OS X on any other computers.
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 03:44PM |
>BTW you get a heck of a lot of computer to run leopard on for peanuts
1. It isn't gonna be peanuts. The price of gettting the parts to work together aren't cheap.
2. It isn't gonna be easy
3. As Jeff mentioned, it isn't legit, so you may have problems with updates, and not be able to get proper support for it, etc...
www.strypesinpost.com
1. It isn't gonna be peanuts. The price of gettting the parts to work together aren't cheap.
2. It isn't gonna be easy
3. As Jeff mentioned, it isn't legit, so you may have problems with updates, and not be able to get proper support for it, etc...
www.strypesinpost.com
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 03:50PM |
3b. And, oh by the way, it's wrong. When you choose to use Mac OS X, you accept the terms under which Apple sold it to you. One of those terms is that you agree not to try to run it on a non-Apple computer. If you don't want to hold up your end of that bargain, you're free to use Windows or something. Or paper and a pencil. Or anything at all besides a Mac.
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 03:58PM |
I don't like the whole concept of this idea. Trying to run the Mac OS on anything other than what it was designed run on is a basement-dwellin' glue-sniffin' Capt'n Crunch-eatin' hacker mentality & just plain supercheap.
CHEAP + CHEAP = CHEAP
When life gives you dilemmas...make dilemmanade.
CHEAP + CHEAP = CHEAP
When life gives you dilemmas...make dilemmanade.
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 04:00PM |
Yeah, that's another side of it that just makes no sense to me. If you leave out the part where it's just flat-out wrong, it's still dumb. "Penny-wise and pound-foolish," as they used to say.
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 04:03PM |
It's like a science fair project gone terribly wrong. Ever go to a carnival as a kid and go into the "FREAKS" tent? See 2-headed babies in a jar of pickle juice? That's EXACTLY what this reminds me of. Something UNNATURAL.
When life gives you dilemmas...make dilemmanade.
When life gives you dilemmas...make dilemmanade.
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 04:03PM |
Haha. I have a slightly different opinion... I see it a challenge to DIY. Buying it ready-made is different. That's just penny pinching cheap.
Also, to use it on a paying project is just too risky (ethics aside)... Something can go wrong somewhere and you don't want your software crapping out on you midway.
www.strypesinpost.com
Also, to use it on a paying project is just too risky (ethics aside)... Something can go wrong somewhere and you don't want your software crapping out on you midway.
www.strypesinpost.com
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 04:05PM |
Editing stations need maintenance all the time. If you use an unsupported combination of software and hardware, you're just taking the risk that your machine will stop working in a few months. And you won't be able to get much help from authorized dealers or even fellow editors.
Play by the rules. It's worth it.
www.derekmok.com
Play by the rules. It's worth it.
www.derekmok.com
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 04:06PM |
I would call it "FRANKENTOSH"...composed of junkyard PC parts that were not meant to be used together with a Mac OS brain.
When life gives you dilemmas...make dilemmanade.
When life gives you dilemmas...make dilemmanade.
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 04:08PM |
"Once you go MAC - you never go back"
When life gives you dilemmas...make dilemmanade.
When life gives you dilemmas...make dilemmanade.
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 04:10PM |
> "Once you go MAC - you never go back"
Yeah...tell that to my musician friend who repaired her PC laptop something like five times in less than three years. Including a monitor repair that lasted about six months. Costs aside, I think she was able to use her computer without problems maybe 50 per cent of the time. Ho ho ho.
www.derekmok.com
Yeah...tell that to my musician friend who repaired her PC laptop something like five times in less than three years. Including a monitor repair that lasted about six months. Costs aside, I think she was able to use her computer without problems maybe 50 per cent of the time. Ho ho ho.
www.derekmok.com
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 04:12PM |
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Mac OS-X is basically Debian Linux in a very fancy box.
It's possible that a more utterly wrong statement has been made at some point in history, but I'm having trouble thinking of one right now. Mac OS X is "basically" Linux to the extent that a MacBook Pro is "basically" a Frisbee.
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 04:26PM |
Rules aside, the main reasons why you get a mac for editing, is 1) Final Cut/Adobe apps, 2) stability, 3) performance, 4) updates.
Running a Hackintosh may allow you to run Final Cut, but warranty on the hardware will likely be void, and you're unlikely to get the other important necessities required from a workstation. You're probably better off with iMovie... Uh... make that Vegas.
www.strypesinpost.com
Running a Hackintosh may allow you to run Final Cut, but warranty on the hardware will likely be void, and you're unlikely to get the other important necessities required from a workstation. You're probably better off with iMovie... Uh... make that Vegas.
www.strypesinpost.com
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 04:31PM |
By that reasoning, Mac OS X is "basically" IRIX, too. Because the guy who managed the Discreet systems at the place where I freelanced a couple times did exactly the same thing.
Please don't perpetrate the ridiculous myth that Mac OS X is the same as Linux. They both have the same distant ancestor, but Mac OS X is a supermodel rocket-scientist, and Linux is a drooling savant with horrible body odor.
Please don't perpetrate the ridiculous myth that Mac OS X is the same as Linux. They both have the same distant ancestor, but Mac OS X is a supermodel rocket-scientist, and Linux is a drooling savant with horrible body odor.
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 05:34PM |
I built a Hacintosh...VERY cheap. $300. Oh, and $129 for the monitor. And my kids helped. After all, this is the kids machine. They can abuse it all they want. Within limits.
But this has to be done with VERY specific parts. And you have to install a HACKED version of the OS. In fact, I didn't know how to install the OS, nor set up the BIOS to properly recognize the components I used. For that I used a computer expert friend of mine. So, truth be told, this is for the REALLY technical people who know IN DEPTH how PCs work. Not for joe schmo like me.
Do I run FCP on it? Well, yeah, it works, just fine. Motion too. Just installed it to see if it would. The kids use iMovie.
www.shanerosseditor.com
Listen to THE EDIT BAY Podcast on iTunes
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But this has to be done with VERY specific parts. And you have to install a HACKED version of the OS. In fact, I didn't know how to install the OS, nor set up the BIOS to properly recognize the components I used. For that I used a computer expert friend of mine. So, truth be told, this is for the REALLY technical people who know IN DEPTH how PCs work. Not for joe schmo like me.
Do I run FCP on it? Well, yeah, it works, just fine. Motion too. Just installed it to see if it would. The kids use iMovie.
www.shanerosseditor.com
Listen to THE EDIT BAY Podcast on iTunes
[itunes.apple.com]
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 10:34PM |
So we went from a misspelled but otherwise innocent question through to some Popes arguing about the need to question why you would want the earth to go around the sun (How dare you even conceive of the idea of thinking of such a thing!) through a diversion to discuss the origins of OS X in BSD UNIX and some old school Mac vs PC flamebait but with Linux subbing for PC and then on to some matter-of-fact "why yes I did build a rocket in my basement, but it was hard and it wasn't a lot of fun and I don't think anyone will want to imitate me" statements...
...all in one thread.
I bow before thee oh Deities of the InterNetWebTubeTimeVortex of Futility.
ak
Sleeplings, AWAKE!
...all in one thread.
I bow before thee oh Deities of the InterNetWebTubeTimeVortex of Futility.
ak
Sleeplings, AWAKE!
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 10:35PM |
Yes, god forbid there should be a variety of opinions. ;-)
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 10:43PM |
Andrew Kines Wrote:
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> and then
> on to some matter-of-fact "why yes I did build a
> rocket in my basement, but it was hard and it
> wasn't a lot of fun and I don't think anyone will
> want to imitate me" statements...
>
I imitated him! Me! ME!
www.shanerosseditor.com
Listen to THE EDIT BAY Podcast on iTunes
[itunes.apple.com]
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> and then
> on to some matter-of-fact "why yes I did build a
> rocket in my basement, but it was hard and it
> wasn't a lot of fun and I don't think anyone will
> want to imitate me" statements...
>
I imitated him! Me! ME!
www.shanerosseditor.com
Listen to THE EDIT BAY Podcast on iTunes
[itunes.apple.com]
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Re: Anyone using a HACKENTOSH? October 21, 2008 10:45PM |
For what it's worth I am keeping an eye on those new netbooks that Asus and Lenovo have out. The Lenovo S10 has an express card slot, I have express card audio devices. A basic Netbook with an SSD drive or even high speed compact flash cards and I could build a small cheapo multi channel location audio system. Hackintosh or XP, whatevs, but I am leaning towards Hackintosh. You've given me hope Shane.
ak
Sleeplings, AWAKE!
ak
Sleeplings, AWAKE!
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