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S16 GrainPosted by michaelpaulucci
Hello,
I just got my film back from the lab, I shot Kodak 7229 500T, and got an Apple Pro Res HQ 1920X1080 23.98 FPS file back. I know this is a grainy stock, and I know S16 as opposed to 35mm and Video is grainy, but the image looks very noisy on my computer. I burned a SD copy and played it on a television, and it still looked a little grainy. Any reason for this? Any suggestions how to to reduce the grain in post? Thanks, Mike
The best I've used is DeNoise from the Furnace plugins from The Foundry.
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Try backspace instead...
For instant answers to more than one hundred common FCP questions, check out the LAFCPUG FAQ Wiki here : [www.lafcpug.org]
There are also many post houses offering 16mm degraining services- because let's face it grain is a major issue.
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there are some screenshots...the exterior is the worst. these really pulse when you watch them as a quicktime. the film stock is very flat, and it seems maybe like the telecine boosted the saturation, which would be wrong. could that explain the very prominent grain structure? i am really hoping to find something to bring it down. thanks again, mike.. make sure you look at the pics 100%
That's kinda the limitations of the format- high speed film, and small film gauge. Looks like a bit of underexposure too which also exaggerates grain. You can try one of the plugins but to be honest- even a crack post house would have a tough time- that is massive grain.
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Yeah not too helpful up there in the peanut gallery. Anyways, I would start with those denoising plugins. Just out of curiosity- was this level of grain a surprise? Perhaps you can speak to the transfer house about it. Maybe they telecined a certain way that greatly exaggerated the amount of grain. I've shot a bunch of regular and super 16 and that's more grain than I've ever seen.
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michaelpaulucci Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah, it was a surprise, however I just burned > some of the footage to a DVD and on a television > the grain is considerably less noticeable. Does > that mean anything good? well sure- blurring is a form of denoising. And you're coming down from a 1080 source so you have some resolution you can burn off to get to a 480p DVD. I guess the point is you can certainly make a usable disc out of this. Not ideal but far from un-salvageable. -Noah Final Cut Studio Training, featuring the HVX200, EX1, EX3, DVX100, DVDSP and Color at [www.callboxlive.com]! Author, RED: The Ultimate Guide to Using the Revolutionary Camera available now at: [www.amazon.com]. Editors Store- Gifts and Gear for Editors: [www.editorsstore.com]
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