Recompressing 59.94 to 29.97

Posted by ADIWOOD 
Recompressing 59.94 to 29.97
May 04, 2009 03:17PM
Good morning,
I have media on a timeline that is:
HDV 720p60 1280x720 59.94fps
I am trying to Recompress it to DV 29.97
When I use Media Manager I get this message:
"The frame rate of the preset chosen for recompression differs from items in your selection.
The preset's frame rate will be ignored, and the original frame rate of the items in your selection retained."
Does anyone have a solution? I need to footage to be 29.97
Adi
Re: Recompressing 59.94 to 29.97
May 04, 2009 04:05PM
I tried what you did with the same results. Odd, as it actually makes a move that is DV but has a 59.94 frame rate. Who know DV could run at that rate?

How about this. Create a new bin in your browser and drag all your clips from the timeline back to the new bin. Select all the clips in the bin and do a batch export.

-Vance
Re: Recompressing 59.94 to 29.97
May 04, 2009 04:36PM
Thanks. This is still keeping the 59.94
Re: Recompressing 59.94 to 29.97
May 05, 2009 02:41PM
I don't think MM will change the frame rate on your footage, hence the error message.

Are you just trying to export a whole sequence to 29.97, as opposed to multiple clips? If so, just export a SCQT and then run it through Compressor, using a DV NTSC 29.97 preset (being mindful of your 16:9 aspect ratio)

JK

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Re: Recompressing 59.94 to 29.97
May 05, 2009 08:50PM
It should be said that 59.94 and 29.97 are really the same thing. One refers to the number of fields and the other the number of frames.

Here it is as defined by wikipedia:

60i (actually 59.94, or 60 x 1000/1001 to be more precise; 60 interlaced fields = 29.97 frames) is the standard video field rate per second that has been used for NTSC television since 1941, whether from a broadcast signal, rented DVD, or home camcorder. (When NTSC color was introduced, the older rate of 60 fields per second was reduced by a factor of 1000/1001 to avoid interference between the chroma subcarrier and the broadcast sound carrier.)
Re: Recompressing 59.94 to 29.97
May 05, 2009 09:07PM
The same thing. Well yes and no. Both are derived from the same reference. Obviously one is just double the other.

In common usage tho, they represent frame rates. 29.97 is the rate for things like 480i and 1080i. These are the "30" fps formats.

59.94 is used to denote "60" fps formats like 720p. While it is true that that is also the number of fields in NTSC frequency signals, and is also the vertical sync rate in analog systems, it is a pretty sure bet that if you read it in common literature it is a note about frame rates.

In the context of the original post here, where Adi is trying to create DV media, it PROBABLY refers to fields. DV is an interlaced format and as far as I have ever read doesn't support true progressive frames. My guess is that it is just a metadata bug, but without being able to test his workflow it is pretty hard to recommend that he just ignores it.

So Adi, did you find a solution?

-Vance
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