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OT: Starting Editing a short - Advices?
Posted by xavpil
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Re: OT: Starting Editing a short - Advices? November 16, 2012 03:57PM |
With such a short film, go for maximum quality -- ProRes 422 or ProRes 422 HQ.
> Any tips on logging. Is it worth typing scene description or Slate info or....?
Never, ever use descriptions. Use scene-shot-take numbers, and put the description into Log Notes or another column of FCP metadata.
> Does it mean that I'll have to edit in the "movie" sequence with the clips sequences?
Create new master clips after syncing. I personally detach all video from audio, so in my case it's also possible for me to just copy/paste the video with the audio tracks from the sync sequence into the editing sequence.
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> Any tips on logging. Is it worth typing scene description or Slate info or....?
Never, ever use descriptions. Use scene-shot-take numbers, and put the description into Log Notes or another column of FCP metadata.
> Does it mean that I'll have to edit in the "movie" sequence with the clips sequences?
Create new master clips after syncing. I personally detach all video from audio, so in my case it's also possible for me to just copy/paste the video with the audio tracks from the sync sequence into the editing sequence.
www.derekmok.com
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Re: OT: Starting Editing a short - Advices? November 16, 2012 04:04PM |
I like to do stringouts and sync in the stringouts. Or you can use PluralEyes for that. Basically after that, select all the clips, right click "make independent clip" and drag into a new bin called "synced rushes". Those will be your new master clips. You can delete the old unsynced clips.
Logging? I really don't care about logging as much, since I barely use logs and I prefer to cut from a sequence to another sequence. But I use markers in the stringout sequence.
www.strypesinpost.com
Logging? I really don't care about logging as much, since I barely use logs and I prefer to cut from a sequence to another sequence. But I use markers in the stringout sequence.
www.strypesinpost.com
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Re: OT: Starting Editing a short - Advices? November 16, 2012 04:09PM |
> Logging? I really don't care about logging as much, since I barely use logs
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Logging, as in changing the default DSLR file names and adding metadata such as Reel Name. Absolutely essential.
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Logging, as in changing the default DSLR file names and adding metadata such as Reel Name. Absolutely essential.
www.derekmok.com
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Re: OT: Starting Editing a short - Advices? November 16, 2012 04:46PM |
> Is this different from just creating new Master clips?
Yes. It means I don't necessarily need new master clips if I need to, say, get back a section I haven't used.
However, browsing takes in a timeline is extremely inefficient, so new master clips are the way to go in the long run. Because of problems with Match Frame, however, I often need to go to the sync sequences (stringouts) to retrieve a clip.
> one string out per clip or do you add several clips in a sequence.
That's up to you. One stringout per clip would be way too inefficient for me. I do one stringout per scene, organized according to shot and take numbers.
www.derekmok.com
Yes. It means I don't necessarily need new master clips if I need to, say, get back a section I haven't used.
However, browsing takes in a timeline is extremely inefficient, so new master clips are the way to go in the long run. Because of problems with Match Frame, however, I often need to go to the sync sequences (stringouts) to retrieve a clip.
> one string out per clip or do you add several clips in a sequence.
That's up to you. One stringout per clip would be way too inefficient for me. I do one stringout per scene, organized according to shot and take numbers.
www.derekmok.com
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Re: OT: Starting Editing a short - Advices? November 16, 2012 05:01PM |
>Logging, as in changing the default DSLR file names and adding metadata such as Reel Name.
That I do. I add reel names and that sort of stuff. That's for organization and easy re-linking. But marking a clip in the log notes column as "LS", "M2S" or describing the spoken text or marking "good take". I rarely use that, and I've kinda stopped doing that, although that may depend on the show. One interesting point to note, and this was from one of Walter Murch's practice, and he makes notes as he watches the rushes for the first time, partly because the audience will be watching the shot for the first time, and that impression at the first viewing can be quite different from subsequent viewing of the same performance.
But I do sort my rushes out into bins based on scenes. That's for organization during the edit so I can find the rushes quickly, and they aren't all over the place.
>one string out per clip or do you add several clips in a sequence.
Usually one sequence per scene. It's something I started doing when I was editing in FCP, and it made more sense when I went to cut on the Avid due to the toggle source/record timeline function. I find it easier to scrub through footage when they are all in a timeline, than when you're loading it from the bins into the viewer. And I use markers for areas of interest.
I usually do my syncing in that sequence with all the rushes from the scene, or the assistant does it, and then use that synced sequence for the edit. That synced sequence is what some guys call the stringout.
>After right clicking dont I need to link the video and audio together (Cmd-L) and then drag?
Ah, yes. You need to link the video with the new audio clips, then make the clip independent, and drag them into the bins to create new Master clips. This means that when you reveal master clip from your edit sequence, it takes you back to the bin.
www.strypesinpost.com
That I do. I add reel names and that sort of stuff. That's for organization and easy re-linking. But marking a clip in the log notes column as "LS", "M2S" or describing the spoken text or marking "good take". I rarely use that, and I've kinda stopped doing that, although that may depend on the show. One interesting point to note, and this was from one of Walter Murch's practice, and he makes notes as he watches the rushes for the first time, partly because the audience will be watching the shot for the first time, and that impression at the first viewing can be quite different from subsequent viewing of the same performance.
But I do sort my rushes out into bins based on scenes. That's for organization during the edit so I can find the rushes quickly, and they aren't all over the place.
>one string out per clip or do you add several clips in a sequence.
Usually one sequence per scene. It's something I started doing when I was editing in FCP, and it made more sense when I went to cut on the Avid due to the toggle source/record timeline function. I find it easier to scrub through footage when they are all in a timeline, than when you're loading it from the bins into the viewer. And I use markers for areas of interest.
I usually do my syncing in that sequence with all the rushes from the scene, or the assistant does it, and then use that synced sequence for the edit. That synced sequence is what some guys call the stringout.
>After right clicking dont I need to link the video and audio together (Cmd-L) and then drag?
Ah, yes. You need to link the video with the new audio clips, then make the clip independent, and drag them into the bins to create new Master clips. This means that when you reveal master clip from your edit sequence, it takes you back to the bin.
www.strypesinpost.com
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Re: OT: Starting Editing a short - Advices? November 16, 2012 05:12PM |
> this was from one of Walter Murch's practice, and he makes notes as he watches the rushes for the first time, partly because the audience will be watching the shot
> for the first time, and that impression at the first viewing can be quite different from subsequent viewing of the same performance.
You can always change your picks afterwards. I use the colour labels for takes that made me perk up on first viewing.
Also, in cases where you can't change the file names (eg. Arri Alexa), I use Log Notes as a kind of divider bar. I describe the shot on the first take of it, and then only shorter notes in subsequent takes, until the next shot. The longer log notes help you visually distinguish one shot from another, which is especially useful because I do a lot of commercials where there are 28 takes of a shot.
www.derekmok.com
> for the first time, and that impression at the first viewing can be quite different from subsequent viewing of the same performance.
You can always change your picks afterwards. I use the colour labels for takes that made me perk up on first viewing.
Also, in cases where you can't change the file names (eg. Arri Alexa), I use Log Notes as a kind of divider bar. I describe the shot on the first take of it, and then only shorter notes in subsequent takes, until the next shot. The longer log notes help you visually distinguish one shot from another, which is especially useful because I do a lot of commercials where there are 28 takes of a shot.
www.derekmok.com
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