16:9 in 4:3 sequence

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Tony19
16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 22, 2006 04:09PM
I am still confused re: how to work with the 2 aspect ratios in one sequence. I have an equal amount of both 16:9 and 4:3 footage in a 4:3 timeline. The 16:9 footage looks stretched, ---is there any way to avoid this? Is it better to put 4:3 footage in a 16:9 timeline?

Suggestions?
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neil
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 22, 2006 04:55PM
The answer is that you cant mix aspect ratios in a single timeline as one will always look incorrect. You will have to resize one or the other. What is the requirement for the aspect ratio of your final master ?
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Shane Ross
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 22, 2006 05:17PM
There is a video tutorial for this at www.proapptips.com/captmench:

Multi Aspect Ratios
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Johan Polhem
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 22, 2006 05:26PM
you can always cheat and put the 16:9 in a 4:3 and then put black bars on the 4:3 to match.
or 4:3 in a 16:9 timeline but you will have to blow up the 4:3 about 33% and loose the top and bottom.
no other way of matching it really
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Tony19
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 22, 2006 06:22PM

If I put the 16:9 in a 4:3, how do I put black bars on the 4:3 to match?
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Johan Polhem
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 22, 2006 07:00PM
best way with the least rendering time is to simply crop them
Go to motion, crop
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derekmok
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 22, 2006 07:34PM
Don't use crop. If you need to move the image up and down, or use a different letterbox size, it's a pain in the ass to change anything. Make the black letterbox bars in Photoshop or use a combination of a black colour matte and a Mask Shape in FCP. Or, nest the sequence after editing and crop that or apply a Widescreen Matte filter. This topic has been covered many times in the forum.
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ryanthompson
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 22, 2006 08:31PM
i recently mixed some old dv stuff and some hdv stuff in a 4:3 dv timeline but first i took all the 4:3 and applied the widescreen filter..it turned out nicely but i hate mixing the 2 because in my opinion all my hdv stuff looks much better even downconverted when compared to my dv stuff
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Johan Polhem
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 22, 2006 08:47PM
"Don't use crop. If you need to move the image up and down, or use a different letterbox size, it's a pain in the ass to change anythin"

-True but rendering times go up by more than 50%.
i guess it all comes down to how much you need to move the footage in order to make it work cropped
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Tony19
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 23, 2006 12:42AM
where so I find the widescreen matter filter? Should this be added at the very end to avoid allot of rendering while editing?
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MikeDerk
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 23, 2006 11:35AM
The widescreen filter doesn't need to be rendered. It's in the "effects" tab in your browser, under "video generators".
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derekmok
Re: 16:9 in 4:3 sequence
March 23, 2006 12:21PM
> The widescreen filter doesn't need to be rendered. It's in the "effects" tab in
> your browser, under "video generators".

It's a filter, not a Generator. And it does require rendering -- there's real-time playback depending on your FCP version, but not at optimal quality. So eventually you'll have to render it.
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