Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?

Posted by harry323 
Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?
March 20, 2007 03:18PM
I have a project which contains several (rendered) versions of the same film.

When I want to make a NEW separate project out of one of these versions I select all, copy, create a NEW project with the same codec etc and paste it in. Voila! Fine ... but the whole wretched thing now want to be rendered. Why can't it find it's old render files? Is there a way for me to conquer this rendering brute?

And - I promise you - the "new" project is the same codec etc etc.

Is this just a case of life being unfair?

Or am I, as I suspect, a blundering idiot?

best

Harry.
Re: Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?
March 20, 2007 04:06PM
<<<I have a project which contains several (rendered) versions of the same film. >>>

Maybe neither.

Did the original clips in the original movie once need rendering? Unless you *exported* the timeline and then imported, you got the original clip codecs with the paste, not the new codec--if I follow this.

Koz
Re: Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?
March 20, 2007 04:38PM
All the clips in the original timeline were color corrected, so, yes -- they were rendered.

I did not "export" via Quicktime or anything like that. Specifically, I plunked my mouse pointer in the "old" timeline, did a SELECT ALL, then COPY. Then I went to "CREATE NEW PROJECT". The new project was duly created. I saved it and named it. I hit "NEW SEQUENCE". That appeared. TI checked that the codec etc was the same, then I PASTED into the new sequence. And the dreaded red line appeared over all.

I think it's my dog's fault.

Thanks for the reply, Koz.

Harry
Re: Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?
March 20, 2007 05:07PM
I think it's too much to expect that clips rendered in one project would have any way of automatically locating the render files that were associated with them in the old project. Pasting into a new sequence in the same project, maybe. But not a new project. And I think in the big picture you would want it this way, because the many opportunities for confusion could haunt you.

Your dog has saved you from all that.

Scott
Re: Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?
March 20, 2007 05:16PM
What you got should be expected. You copied not the sequence, but the contents of the sequence, which is all the fiddly little parts.

If you don't want to render again, you can copy the sequence to the new project. Then you're copying everything including references to render files.

But as mentioned, if you have any gremlins around you may be best off to let it render again.
Re: Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?
March 20, 2007 05:29PM
i thought FCP was better at remembering the render links than it used to.
maybe it only works within the one project:
copy from one sequence to another should keep the renders.
but i have seen it work sometimes, and not work other times.

anyway, Harry, here;s what you need to do:

at the finder level, copy the Project.
open the copy and delete everything except the clip/s you want.

that'll work.


nick
Re: Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?
March 20, 2007 05:30PM
oops.. i missed brakers reply.

that should work too.
probably easier.


cheers,
nick
Re: Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?
March 20, 2007 05:36PM
Thank you all very much for your advice. I'll give Nick's version a try. I think that will work too.

best to all,

Harry
Re: Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?
March 21, 2007 09:49AM
Just a postscript.

My dog was innocent.

I did the Braker system and just dragged the sequence file from the "old" browser window into the new project browser window.

It gurgled and spat a little and then spent about 5 minutes copying it (90 mins of film with 22 audio tracks and millions of cuts).

Finally ... there it was in my new project. No render required.

My life has changed.

Many thanks to all.

Harry.
Re: Pasting an edited file into a new project forces render ... why?
March 21, 2007 10:17AM
I just love that Braker. Knows nigh upon everythin'.
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