FCP X and Motion 5 now in App Store

Just FYI.

Wayne

Thanks for the heads up. I have it right now and am trying to find my way around. So far I see a limitation on where you tell FCP 10 to save files. The preferences dialog box is super spartan - it's got a few more options then Quicktime 7! FCP 10 has the same work flow as iMovie. The way my drives are laid out I need to get things saving on different disks and I see nothing to configure this, not like earlier versions of FCP that had tabs of configuration options. Really looks like a very souped up iMovie.

Other bummer, don't see anyway yet to import my old FCP 6 files! Looks like we have to start over. If there are any tutorials included with FCP 10 they're well hidden. Maybe the price was so cheap since they aren't including any tutorials any more. Yikes! Got Motion and Compressor too, but haven't looked at them yet.

Just checking the menus, they're very spartan too. Going to take some time to figure out.

-Scott

*** SORRY I GOOFED *** THE OLD FCP IS STILL HERE. I APOLOGIZE. READ THE OTHER COMMENTS AND IT IS TRUE - JUST CHECKED AND THE OLD FCP IS STILL THERE.

My heart sank to my feet when I clicked the old icon the new FCP started in it's place. Thought it had over wrote it. Sorry everyone.... now going over to stand in the corner.

I'm already encountering a few bugs. Had to close it from Activity monitor once. Tagging clips with keywords left strange text bubbles on the clip and when going to another project (or "event", they were still there. Then it stopped responding.

Bottom line if you don't like iMovie, your not going to like this interface or work flow. If you love iMovie you will love this interface.

Have figure out how it wants to store your files (or put them where you want them). It defaults to yourccount>pictures>Movie>Final Cut Events. From my initial testing it look like it groups everything in that folder, source clips, Rendered transitions, etc.

One thing I found is that you can't drag items from the Find to the clips area, you have to import everything!

My initial reaction and most of you too will be that they have seriously 'dumbed' down FCP.

If you have an questions ask away and I'll see what I can do to answer them...

Both require ProKit 7 udate though. In the middle of too much stuff to risk that one.

Yeah, I think backwards compatibility with older FCP project files is one of the things missing from the new version, along with things like multicam. Start making a list!

It sounds like they've rolled a lot of the features of Color and Soundtrack Pro into the Final Cut, but does anyone know if those apps (plus DVD Studio Pro) are officially discontinued?

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SCQT! Self-contained QuickTime ? pass it on!

They don't even fanfare it on the homepage. Oh, boy. iMovie Pro 12.

- Loren

Today's FCP 7 keytip:
Temporarily mix down audio tracks with Command-Option - R !

Your Final Cut Studio KeyGuide? Power Pack
with FCP7 KeyGuide --
now available at KeyGuide Central.
www.neotrondesign.com

Loren Miller Wrote:
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> They don't even fanfare it on the homepage. Oh,
> boy. iMovie Pro 12.
>
Yeah, that shocked me too. They usually pay lip service to it at the bottom of the home page.

JVK

I keep reading everywhere that it does not overwrite FCP 7...can anyone confirm which is true?

Scott_r Wrote:
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> *** VERY BIG HEADS UP *** - DON'T INSTALL THE NEW
> FCP ON YOUR EXISTING FCP SETUP! IT WILL OVER WRITE
> YOU OLD VERSION OF FCP (AND MOST LIKELY MOTION AND
> COMPRESSOR APPS TOO). YOU CANNOT OPEN OLD FCP
> PROJECTS IN THIS NEW VERSION, JUST IMOVIE
> PROJECTS!!!!

Hmm... Larry Jordan had indicated that we could install FCP X without overwriting FCP 7. See his blog, here:

http://www.larryjordan.biz/goodies/blog.html

Specifically, he said "Installing FCP X does not remove FCP 7. So you can take your own sweet time deciding when to make the switch. And, in fact, you can use FCP 7 where it makes sense and FCP X when that is a better choice. For the first time ever, we can have two different versions of FCP on the same system at the same time, without partitioning hard disks and jumping through hoops."

So, I'm surprised to hear this might not be true in all case.

Wayne

Installing as we speak. Mine's a new kit, so not much to reinstall. Let you guys know in a bit.



www.strypesinpost.com

this is not true. It will not overwrite old FCP

Michael Horton
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I can absolutley definitly confirm it DOES NOT overrite FCP7 - all it does is place the suite in a folder called final cut studio - so if you had a shortcut on your dock (who doesn't) then it will boot fcpx by default which may freak you out - but FCP is still there in the studio folder inside the app.

So far i have to admit im not a big fan, it feels like so many options and controls have been taken away, i don't want to be forced to work in an 'imove esk events' style, i can't seem to set my windows up how i want, and frankly apart from the great 64bit goodness and open CL and all the other under the hood goodies, i can't see using this for any work for a long time, hell just the lack of any form of compatability with fcp projects, no xml, or edl support etc is a massive shortcoming... this just feels like a fancy imovie.

Downloaded FCPX Motion and Compressor - it didn't overwrite any of those apps.

How about my HD screen?

I can get the viewer onto a second screen, but can't anywhere find the way to play video out through my Blackmagic Decklink HD Extreme.

Any ideas?

I've looked everywhere. This is bizarre.

Harry.

[it feels like so many options and controls have been taken away]

Damn. :-(

- Loren

Today's FCP 7 keytip:
Temporarily mix down audio tracks with Command-Option - R !

Your Final Cut Studio KeyGuide? Power Pack
with FCP7 KeyGuide --
now available at KeyGuide Central.
www.neotrondesign.com

So it's not just that there's no support from Blackmagic yet-- there's no menu item for Video Output anymore? Is that true??

JVK


harry323 Wrote:
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> How about my HD screen?
>
> I can get the viewer onto a second screen, but
> can't anywhere find the way to play video out
> through my Blackmagic Decklink HD Extreme.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> I've looked everywhere. This is bizarre.
>
> Harry.

_______________________________________
SCQT! Self-contained QuickTime ? pass it on!

>I can absolutley definitly confirm it DOES NOT overrite FCP7 - all it does is place the suite in a
>folder called final cut studio.

Yup. Confirmed.



www.strypesinpost.com

No menu item for Video Output that I can find.

Bummer.

I just imported some H.264 shot on a hand held pocket Canon 720p and I must say that I have never seen such good smoothing. Better than Lock&Load.

BUT - I tried importing some HDV and it wouldn't so it - gave me a sulky message saying "No Importable Files - None of the selected files or folders can be imported. Change the selection and try again".

Bummer.

Maybe it's because it was shot on a Canon XLH1 and is in Canon's 24f format.

Harry.

LOL...I think I am gonna wait a little while until the screaming & complaining dies down to install...

NOBODY has said it is cool yet.

When life gives you dilemmas...make dilemmanade.

"Import from tape-based devices

You can import media from a tape-based camcorder or tape-based device. To determine which clips you want to import (rather than importing all of them), you can view them using Final Cut Pro before you import them."

- FCPX Help User Guide


Good-O!

Most annoying thing so far is the misnomer 'events' for ole-fashioned BINS. But it feels like at least there is some reining in on the freedom involved in importing media-- importing anything is an event. You get to name it-- but it's still an event, not a bin. Randoy or somebody don;'t like bins. A true videophile won't be troubled-- this is the name of any cut in an EDL. But here you can store thousands of clips in an "event" so it that reference doesn't hold up well either. Feels like reinventing a wheel that was already round? And then adding a candy-coated glaze...

- Loren
Today's DVDSP keytip:
Invoke the Simulator anytime with Command-Option-Zero !

The DVD Studio Pro KeyGuide? - on sale alone or bundled in
the Final Cut Studio 2 KeyGuide? Power Pack.
Available at discount here at the LAFCPUG Store

Once you have installed FCPX and Compressor, run Software Update - there is some stuff called "Final Cut Pro X Supplemental Content" etc. A relatively big file - 638MB.

Harry.