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Your basic troubleshooting and discussion forum for all things about Adobe Premiere Pro CC.
It could be used very well for optical audio, although none of the manufacturers have really jumped on it yet. Maybe somewhere down the road with 5.1 or 7.1 mixing and monitoring (next version update?).
Have fun with the cable.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
Now there's a good idea. Has anyone thought of that before? Everything pre-installed and pre-configured on one card. Just plug and play. Upgrade time? Just bring in the old card and trade it in for a new one.
Sorry, coulldn't resist. Seriously though, FCP doesn't come on a card. Not yet anyway, although you may have really hit on something there. For the time being, you have to purchase
by ClayC
- Café LA
>>I think we will go with transfering the lot to DV tape<<
well, that's going to mean 50+ hrs to transfer and 50+ hrs to log and caputre, = over 100 hrs plus tape stock. For the time and money involved, you could easily get the DAT audio transferred to CD, and then be able to edit that onto DV or HDV or whatever you want. The g-raid and the 5.1 upgrade don't make the process any fa
by ClayC
- Café LA
Phil,
50 hours means 50 hours plus time for logging, loading, testing so even with 10 hour+ days.... Go figure. At least a week of nothing but playing in audio.
In your situation I'd get in touch with the audio guy who recorded the DAT material and see what options he can offer. I'd bet cash money he has a simple solution and the gear to deal with it properly. Also, do you need to retain
by ClayC
- Café LA
Phil,
what DAT machine are you using and with what connections?
In the meantime; I gave up on importing DAT awhile ago. Settings can be tricky, stuff can go wrong, and it's far easier, faster and cheaper to have your audio guy or an audio facility transfer the DAT tapes to data CD in .aiff format, and then just bring in the files. No reason for you as an editor to fumble with the gear involv
by ClayC
- Café LA
>>how do you guys handle multitrack production sound?<<
Record .bwf audio. All your tracks are in one file with original TC.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
It depends on what you want to do with it. The single cmos chip doesn't do as good a job as the 3 chip models, although, having seen some HDV footage shot with it recently, I was surprised at how good it was, considering. It's priced substantially lower than the FX1 though, which is pretty indicative as to how Sony themselves evaluate it. That should tell you a lot right there. IMHO for pro u
by ClayC
- Café LA
Was the drive acting strangely before it went down? Like ejecting itself and then coming back up again unexpectedly? If yes, then it could be the power supply. Try connecting a new power supply before giving up on the drive.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
Good to post all that info. It makes it a lot easier for people who are trying to help. All appears to be well, and from what you've described so far, it doesn't sound like FCP is the culprit here, so don't do a re-install just yet.
Can you absolutely rule out anything wrong with the camera or the tape?:
Does your tape play back in the camera properly?
Do you have the camera set to output
by ClayC
- Café LA
Whoa. Hang on. Count to ten there real sssslllloowww.
First off, if your rig is in good shape, your software is installed properly and your gear is connected properly with good cables, then you shouldn't be having any problems whatsoever. However, it's not just a matter of plug and play but rather of getting the setup right, understanding exactly what you're trying to do, and what steps to ta
by ClayC
- Café LA
Phil,
You can put theoretically put DVCam footage (which is in fact simply DV) into an FCP5 HDV timeline, but:
1. The frame sizes are completely different. HDV is 1440x1080 (assuming you shot 1080), DVCam is 720x576 (assuming PAL here) or 1024x576 if you shot DVCam in 16:9. The DV footage can't be increased in size to match HDV without substantial quality loss. And, rendering will take a ve
by ClayC
- Café LA
Yes, like I indicated above, that works. It even works with a reference movie opened with QT Player and then exported from QT, so I'm not totally dead in the water. Although, I then lose metadata. The only route I can use at the moment to maintain chapter markers is via Compressor (ssslllllooowww).
Short of re-installing Studio, can't think of anything else at this point.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
Tried that. No improvement. After more testing strange thing is, DVD SP won't accept any FinalCutPro Movies, ref or self-contained regardless of codec. It crashes immediately after hitting import>asset. It will accept QuickTimes exported from QTPlayer.
Any idea what's going on here?
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
Hi Derek,
yep, tried it both ways. Strange thing is, I was doing it just the other day with the same sequence, no problem. All I did was swap out the audio for a different language version. The sequence plays out aok, I can open it with QT (both ref or self-contained), just can't get it in to DVD SP.
Maybe I've commited the cardinal sin of never upgrade mid-project (had to, needed iPhoto and
by ClayC
- Café LA
I just upgraded to FCP 5.0.4 and OS 10.4.6. I used to be able to drop a DVCProHD ref movie into DVD SP and build and burn. A ten minute sequence would take just a few minutes to export. It would build in about 20. Now, everytime I try to import > asset into DVD SP, DVD SP immediately crashes. It will still take DV or Animation or Uncompressed, just not DVCProHD anymore.
Did the trash pre
by ClayC
- Café LA
Turn on power to the drives before starting your machine. Make sure that the "put drives to sleep whenever possible" box is unchecked in the energy saver prefs (system settings).
Should work.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
Nope. No hole in that logic. Just maintain good file management and talk to the post house in advance as to what EDL format, visual reference files, etc. they expect you to deliver. Maybe email them over a test EDL file once you've gotten a few minutes edited to make sure everyone is on the same page for the OnLine.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
Another way is to play out to DVCProHD. Drop that straight into DVD SP and build. It doesn't need to be converted to SD.
Whatever works best for you for the moment, because all the current methods are work-arounds. Hopefully soon, we'll be getting Blu-Ray disks and you can then playout HDV straight into DVD SP (it's already set up for that) and burn HD.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
Mike,
I'm still curious as to why you did the downconvert. What was the original footage?
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
>>So Remove Attributes will take care of it<<
Hi Derek,
yeah, I know that, but I said "probably not going to help" because it sounds like MikeLA has gotten things fundamentally wrong in the capture and sequence settings dept. If the original material was, for example, HDV at 1080i (1440x1080) then importing it anamorphically and then dropping it into a non-anamorphic 4:3 t
by ClayC
- Café LA
>>is there a way to do that once for all of them instead of one by one by one...???<<
Hi Wayne,
Sure. Apply the distort aspect say to the first clip in the timeline. Then hit Apple+c to copy. Select all the other clips and paste attributes>distortion to the rest in one go.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
That's probably not going help, unless aspect correction has been applied from the motion tab in the viewer. It might be of help to undo anamorphic in the item properties for the master clips, but just guessing. It all depends on what flavor of HD we're talking about here, and how and why it was downconverted.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
>>What I did was edited HD downconverted footage<<
You need to provide more details on that to be able to straighten things out:
1. What flavor of HD footage is the original material? HDV? DVCProHD? HDCam? Other? Why did you downcovert?
2. When you did the downconvert, what exactly did you downconvert to? DV? Other?
3. What aspect (16:9 or 4:3) do you want the final seq
by ClayC
- Café LA
What they said, although when shooting, lighting for B&W is much different than lighting for color. Proper contrast is crucial, and when f-stopping down, you don't want the blacks full of artifacts. Think about having a good B&W monitor solution on set during shoot to make sure you're getting the photographic look you want.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
Open the avi's first using the QT Player. Then export them from the QT Player to something you can edit with. Try DV PAL. The pixel dimensions should be set to 720x576 (or 1024x576 if it's 16:9).
Then just import the converted QT's into FCP (DV PAL timline) and you should be able to edit no problem.
Clay
by ClayC
- Café LA
The camera you're talking about is a cmos sensor model. Look at the pricing. Sony has them priced below their 3CCD's. That should tell you a lot. None of the manufacturers currently make the claim that the cmos sensors are better than 3 chip.
by ClayC
- Café LA
Ok, got the general idea. Here's what I'd do in your situation. Not saying that this is the best of all possible worlds, but maybe some ideas for you to consider:
>>The directors have asked to view all the footage on DVDs with timecode and chapter marks to skip threw<<
Forget HDV for the moment. And, there's several options to handle things in a more automated fashion. Batch exp
by ClayC
- Café LA
Strange thing about the nice site spammail. I recieved it 5 times yesterday on an email address I haven't used here on the phorum for well over a year. How's that work?
by ClayC
- Café LA
Sounds to me like you should thinking down the road a bit to get the workflow back on track. At the moment its a pretty big log jam.
For example:
What method is the director using to view/log the 25hrs of material?
What does he need timecode for? If he's just marking shots and takes then there are other ways to give him a reference.
What happens to all those DVD's at the end of the day? Th
by ClayC
- Café LA
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